PeeperStorm on 18/9/2009 at 00:59
And make sure you get a decent phono cartridge to go with that turntable.
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But really, why bother? Sorry, the notion that an analogue representation of sound, etched into a plastic disk is better or "warmer" than a CD quality recording at 44.1 KBS, is just that, a notion. IMHO.
Mechanical systems (like turntables or speakers) and vacuum tube electronics tend to to add whatever distortion they introduce as even order harmonics. Solid state devices tend to introduce distortion as odd order harmonics. Even orders sound smoother, odd orders sound harsher. The people who can hear the difference are a minority, but it's there nonetheless.
raevol on 18/9/2009 at 04:57
Quote Posted by PeeperStorm
Mechanical systems (like turntables or speakers) and vacuum tube electronics tend to to add whatever distortion they introduce as even order harmonics. Solid state devices tend to introduce distortion as odd order harmonics. Even orders sound smoother, odd orders sound harsher. The people who can hear the difference are a minority, but it's there nonetheless.
Shit where were you on all the raver boards 3 years ago...!
Macha on 18/9/2009 at 10:43
I really do apologise for my ignorance but I don't really know what that is, I mean I know a pre-amp boosts or changes the signal but anyhow I have a Technics SU-V300M2.
The reason I really want to get a turntable is because the music I listen to was recorded onto analogue tapes and meant to be played back on vinyl. Neil Young is passionate that digital sucks balls and as he is one of my heroes so I'm inclined to give this theory a proper listen.
In response to getting a direct-drive; aren't they meant to be poorer quality because the location of the motor adds background noise to the playback?
To save you guys the bother of answering noob questions about the world of vinyl for me is there any literature on the web that would explain this for me?
SlyFoxx on 18/9/2009 at 13:22
Your amplifier has a phono input so you are good to go there. You see the output signal of a record player is weaker than the output of a CD player or a tape deck. A record is also recorded with a preemphasis that boosts the highs and cuts the lows. On playback the phono preamp applies deemphasis that reverses the process. Thus the need for a special input used only for records.
As for Neil...even he's coming around to the digital way.
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http://www.musicdirect.com/product/85324)
Direct drive is a perfectly fine 99.9% of the time and you never need worry about replacing a worn belt.
Macha on 7/12/2009 at 19:03
Just to give closure, it took me a while but I got my turntable. I picked up a modded Rega P3 for 300euro. It has a RB300 with VanDamme rewiring, tungsten steel counterweight and ISO subplatter with ruby bearing. It is unbelievably better than any other method of audio playback, there is no distortion or limits on the frequencies and there is an abudance of clarity that lets you hear little bits and instruments you never even knew where there before. Each instrument can be easily individually heard instead of the muddy mess of mp3s.
Rock on!
Kolya on 8/12/2009 at 11:11
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Martin Karne on 8/12/2009 at 18:38
Make sure you have a nice subsonic cut filter to avoid over working speakers, most older amplifiers had one (back in the 1980s and early 90s maybe), or use an equalizer that can cut down 16Hz for good measure, you won't gain anything but wasting power on sounds most earthlings can't even hear.
Sulphur on 8/12/2009 at 18:40
Wasn't one of the arguments against the whole movement to CDs that while you couldn't hear those frequencies, you could feel them?
Not that I'm keen on debating either side of the issue or anything. As far as the truth's concerned, I suppose more experienced audiophiles would be in the know.
Martin Karne on 8/12/2009 at 19:47
Nope I meant the rumble coming off the platter that has nothing to do with sound at all, just useless subsonic noise.
No tape master could get any lower than 30-25-20Hz with luck, so a vynil disc is not having anything on a high level worth reproducing at or below 20Hz if there is any.
Besides in sound reproduction ultrasonics and subsonics get generated by amplifying music even if there wasn't before, no need to add extra crap.
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and guess what kind of master tapes are the music studios using now, yeah digital.
