TTLG Music People: I crave new music. Help me. - by Aja
Aja on 18/4/2006 at 21:52
This semester I took an introductory course in western art music, and I'm liking the late 19th and 20th century works.
I'd try not to sound like a name-dropper but everyone knows that's exactly what I am. So screw it. :thumb:
Of the music that comes with the textbook, I really enjoyed the following:
Debussy's "Clouds", Chopin's "Nocturne in F-sharp (Op 15 No.2)", Stravinksy's Rite of Spring, Bartok's Music for Strings Percussion and Celesta II, Weburn's Five Orchestral Pieces, Ligeti's Lux aeterna, Varese's Poeme Electronique, and Reich's Tehillim (I like the Reich in particular), John Cage's prepared piano stuff (played in class but not in the text, so I don't know what it's called). The prof also played some cool minimalist music, but again, I can't remember who it was.
And you can laugh all you want, but Zappa's Civilization Phaze III is one of the most (
http://www.ualberta.ca/~letersky/Zappa/put_a_motor_in_yourself.mp3) interesting and atmospheric orchestral (though much of it is synthesized) albums I've heard. It's a shame he doesn't get included amongst the other famous 20th century composers (or maybe he does, but certainly not in my text).
It's a diverse list, but I'm interested in hearing more of all of those genres. I know I once called Charles Ives an obscure composer but I'm trying to make up for it now, dammit! Speaking of which, I think I like Ives, too. :D
ps - that link is illegal so shhhhh!
Tonamel on 18/4/2006 at 22:09
Well, if you enjoy minimalism, then definitely check out "Einstein on the Beach" by Phillip Glass, and "Shaker Loops" by John Adams.
Bernstein's "Mass" is amazing, amazing stuff, as is his "Chichester Psalms".
"Pines of Rome," "Feste Romane" (Roman Festivals), and "Church Windows" by Ottorino Respighi.
"Variations on America" by Ives is great, and if you're really daring, try his "Fourth of July."
"An Idyll for the Misbegotten" by George Crumb is good. I've not heard his "The Voice of the Whale," but I always see it mentioned when people discuss his stuff.
Ingram Marhsall's "Gradual Requiem." Good luck finding a copy, though.
"Folk Songs" by Luciano Berio
"American Salute" by Morton Gould is fiendishly awesome. His fantasia on "Yankee Doodle" isn't bad either.
That's it for now, I'll probably have more later.
jstnomega on 19/4/2006 at 00:14
Quote Posted by Tonamel
Well, if you enjoy minimalism, then definitely check out "Einstein on the Beach" by Phillip Glass, and "Shaker Loops" by John Adams.
Philip Glass: seconded. Akhnaten & Concerto for Violin & Orchestra (1987) are very listenable. Beware! This guy makes Zappa seem unprolific.
"Wagner's music is much better than it sounds." - Mark Twain
Ajare on 19/4/2006 at 00:25
Quote Posted by jstnomega
"Wagner's music is much better than it sounds." - Mark Twain
Wagner is 30 seconds of brilliance, followed by 15 minutes of tedium. Rinse & repeat.
Read all about it, here.
Inline Image:
http://www.tetracorp.net/images/leechomatic/0306804379.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpgposting a pic in Commchat, I'm going to hell
Oh, and to answer the OP, I recommend a bit of Scarlatti, if you're into underground piano sonatas.
Kolya on 19/4/2006 at 01:59
Stop listening to dead people. That's sentimental.
Morrissey, Prince and the Strokes are all alive (more or less) and have recently released new albums. :D
Tonamel on 19/4/2006 at 02:05
Okay, time for more:
(
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009XT8KQ/103-3609156-1966256?v=glance&n=5174) "Acoutstica: Alarm Will Sound Performs Aphex Twin." Okay, so it's just an orchestra playing Aphex Twin covers, but it's very impressively done, and comparable to any modern orchestral work.
If you like Debussy's work, then you can't go wrong with anything by Ravel. "Bolero" is a particular favorite of mine.
(
http://www.newalbion.com/NA066/) Harold Budd with Zeitgeist.
Louis Andriessen - De Materie pt 3: De Stijl. I'm not sure why I like this, but I do. I'm not familiar with anything else he's written.
Morten Lauridsen - Lux Aeterna. Nothing at all like Ligeti's. In fact, it's about as far away as you could get. The "O Nata Lux" is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.
Carl Orff - Carmina Burana. I'm assuming you already know this one, but you didn't mention it, so I thought I would.
Aaron Copland - In the Beginning. This isn't your usual Copland. Probably one of the most experimental things he wrote. Of course, that makes it one of the hardest to find...
Aja on 19/4/2006 at 02:27
Quote Posted by Tonamel
Carl Orff - Carmina Burana. I'm assuming you already know this one, but you didn't mention it, so I thought I would.
You assume I know him? I've never heard of him :p
Thanks so much, though. I will be checking out every recommendation here, provided I can find them all. DC++ is acting up on me, but it wouldnt' be the first time. I'll report back with impressions, that is, if anyone's interested.
I am curious - is Frank Zappa even talked about in music circles? Until now, the only music I listened to that remotely resembled orchestral music was his, so I'm wondering how music afficianados generally rank it in relation to the supposed 20th century greats (if at all).
Tonamel on 19/4/2006 at 02:35
Quote Posted by Aja
You assume I know him? I've never heard of him :p
"O Fortuna" from Carmina Burana is one of those pieces that everyone's heard, but no one knows the name of. Even if you've never heard of Orff, I can almost guarantee that you've heard that movement somewhere before (in TV commercials, etc.)
I couldn't tell you if Zappa's discussed much or not. My music history classes only got as far as the 1920s.
Scots Taffer on 19/4/2006 at 03:26
O FORTUNA STARS IN:
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http://i3.tinypic.com/vxci1u.jpgBut yeah, everyone knows O Fortuna. It's great. Especially when it's played so loud that every panel of glass in your room is vibrating and the chorale bass is trembling the floor beneath your feet.
In fact, it's the
only way to play O Fortuna. The rest of Carmina Burana is also excellent, but it pales into comparison to O Fortuna - however the cowbell factor must be taken into consideration.
I'll second Philip Glass, I only own four tracks of his - the three movements of the Violin Concerto and a piece called "Definition" from some Yo-Yo Ma Cello compilation my wife has. This man knows his strings. I am on a quest to find all of his string-based works.
I'll be checking out some of these, for sure. Oh and Tonamel: is the Lux Aeterna mentioned above the same piece that features in
Requiem for a Dream?
Aja on 19/4/2006 at 04:09
Listening to Einstein on the Beach now. I must've found some abridged version cause it's supposed to be three hours, but mine's about one.
The dialogue is cheesy and I'd hate to be caught listening to this, but I love the hypnotic quality and the ever-present organ synth. And I'll be damned if Knee 3 doesn't sound like Wanda Wanda from katamari damacy - now there's an album that if you haven't heard, I can't recommend enough. It doesn't belong in this thread, but it's so good that everyone should hear it anyway.