Fig455 on 11/4/2006 at 02:06
I had TONS of music, games, movies ripped off from me a couple years ago. All of it was hard copy (retail) and legally purchased. Question is, I have been wanting to replace a lot of it. Is it legal, in my situation, to snag this stuff on torrent sites, etc.? I still have several of the original's receipts, boxes.
Scots Taffer on 11/4/2006 at 02:16
Legally, you're in the wrong. It's always technically theft. You aren't having the products replaced by the companies or the vendors involved, they're being replaced by someone who is actively distributing it to those who aren't paying.
Morally, I say you're in the clear.
kingofthenet on 11/4/2006 at 02:25
Legally I would say you are fine as long as you ONLY take stuff you bought, and you have proof of ownership, For example if they took "Black in Black" from ACDC, you could snag a torrent copy, but not ALL ACDC songs, just that one specific album, and version, so grabbing a "remastered" or "live" version would be wrong if you only had the original version.When you buy a CD you are buying rights to privately use the songs, not the physical media. so if you scratch the shit out of your CD and its unplayable, just snag a torrent copy, but keep the fucked up disk as proof of ownership, and of course of you sell the copy, you can't use the songs anymore legally.Anyone know what happens if you download a shitload of Itunes songs to your Hard Drive and it dies?
Gingerbread Man on 11/4/2006 at 02:52
Yeah, because if I had a bike and someone stole it then as long as I make sure only to steal the exact same model from someone else, that's fine.
Oh OH WAIT I HAVE ANOTHER ONE!
It's like if I had a $10 bill and someone stole it from my wallet and the I go and steal a ten dollar bill (and ONLY a ten dollar bill, not to fives, not ten ones, not half a twenty) from a cash register somewhere. That's all fine and legal rite guys? guys?
WHAT KIND OF AN IDIOT QUESTION IS THIS
Fringe on 11/4/2006 at 02:57
Except no one is actually losing $10 -- it's as if you had a $10 bill duplicating machine that you decided to use only once after you'd lost a $10 bill in a river or something. It would be forgery in the legal sense of the word forgery, but it wouldn't actually be doing the economic/moral harm that forgery laws were put in place to stop. It's the mechanism of the crime, but not actually the crime.
Gingerbread Man on 11/4/2006 at 02:59
You just keep telling yourself that, bubba.
Renault on 11/4/2006 at 03:13
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WHAT KIND OF AN IDIOT QUESTION IS THIS
Stellar moderating job there.
Rug Burn Junky on 11/4/2006 at 03:18
HAY GUYS, MAYBE ITS NOT A THEFT BECAUSE ITS COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.
I dunno, just something someone might have told me once.
Gingerbread Man on 11/4/2006 at 03:48
Quote Posted by Brother Renault
Stellar moderating job there.
Thanks, I do my best. :)
<small>WHAT KIND OF AN IDIOT COMMENT WAS THAT</small>
Briareos H on 11/4/2006 at 03:50
Actually, it is legal for example, say, in France, where you have a right for private copy.
If you buy an album, you can copy it ad infinitum, as long as it remains for family use only, and that includes downloading off the internet.
So that depends on your local government I guess.
