Yakoob on 1/8/2015 at 23:39
^ this. PCs had joysticks and pads for ages, the PCMasterRace is just butthurt that consoles did them better
90sgamer92 on 2/8/2015 at 00:17
Quote Posted by Starker
And Dark Souls may not have historical significance now, but it will. It's a seminal game. There are already games being made that are influenced by it. Big important games like Witcher 3.
Yeah, souls-like is almost becoming a subgenre by now. Souls games have a lot of influence no doubt, but games like Ultima and Wizardry (that started on PC) had a far bigger (and maybe even more longlasting, esp. in the case of Wizardry) influence, even if only because they were at the right place at the right time. It's hard for any modern game to have the kind of influence that "pioneers" like that had (I use quotation marks as dungeon crawlers existed before U0 and W1).
Starker on 2/8/2015 at 03:12
Sure, the pond was much smaller back then, so it was easier to make a bigger splash, and, speaking purely in terms of relative impact, Dark Souls might not only end up below Ultima and Wizardry but probably also stuff like Diablo, Baldur's Gate and Dungeon Master.
Due to the iterative nature of game development, many of the best RPGs (even games like Ultima 7) pale in comparison to some of their predecessors in terms of the impact they had. Planescape Torment was not as influential as Baldur's Gate, Lands of Lore was not as influential as Dungeon Master, etc. Dark Souls in particular draws from nearly three decades of gaming, most directly from From's own King's Field and Demon Souls, of course.
nicked on 2/8/2015 at 07:26
Plus, can we wait 30 years before we decide which of today's games are "influencial". Seems a bit premature.
faetal on 2/8/2015 at 08:31
I'd argue that (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1lbCWqiqyk) Moonstone & (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdLX6Ibdnyc) Severance: Blade of Darkness (particularly the latter) inspired Dark Souls to some extent. Tension and high risk of death in a middle ages fantasy setting was already a thing, Dark Souls just perfected it (though I'd have loved if it had Severance style dismemberment just to really give it some brutality).
WingedKagouti on 3/8/2015 at 12:26
Using DS as an abbrevation when people are talking about both Dead Space and Dark Souls in alternating posts can be a little confusing, even with context.
henke on 27/8/2015 at 17:03
Well wouldn't you know it, RPS has put together another DUMB LIST for us to disagree with: (
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/08/27/best-action-games/#more-308921) Top 25 Action Games. Action games, now that's a genre so broad it could contain just about anything, but what it DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T CONTAIN is Grow Home and Beyond Good & Evil, lovely though they are. It's just not an action game unless you spend most of your time killing(or at least knocking out) people or things, imo. As for their #1 pick? No no no, that's not even
the best Saints Row game! SR3 is!Henke's Top 15 Action Games1. Max Payne
2. Chronicles of Riddick: EfBB
3. Batman: Arkham Asylum
4. Oni
5. GTA:SA
6. Just Cause 2
7. Uncharted 3
8. DOOM
9. Saints Row 3
10. Halo
11. Far Cry 3
12. Hotline Miami
13. Red Dead Redemption
14. The Warriors
15. MDK
(games listed more in order of how good they are as Action Games, and not so much in order of how good they are as Games)
faetal on 27/8/2015 at 17:17
Quote Posted by henke
4. Oni
CORRECT!
10 points.
Amazing game. Had awesome guns which I never ended up using because the HTH combat is so frickin great.
Sulphur on 27/8/2015 at 17:34
Your action games ain't got enough action, henke.
Inline Image:
http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-colbert.gifSulph's Totes Top Action Games List1. Hatoful Boyfriend
2. Fahrenheit
3. Fahrenheit
4. Dangerous High School Girls in Trouble
5. Godhand
6. Metal Gear Solid 4 codec conversations with Rosemary and an unstable sixaxis controller
7. Riana Rouge
8. Every Dead or Alive game ever made
9. Ultima VII: Serpent Isle
N'Al on 27/8/2015 at 18:46
This man speaks the truth.
Also, chakats.
