Shadowcat on 14/7/2015 at 11:40
Quote Posted by henke
If you wanna be cynical you might argue that anything any gaming site writes is just to get ad revenue.
The content at RPS has always been good (for the most part), but I don't think it's cynical to suggest that the otherwise-pointless (and very user-unfriendly) move of splitting their articles across multiple pages is anything
other than an attempt to get more money from adverts. Which is their prerogative of course, and a fairly inconsequential move to lots of people, I think; but it made me stop reading the site entirely. (And on the few occasions I've ended up there since, the situation seems to have gotten worse.) I'm sure the quality of the writing is still high, but they went and made it sufficiently irritating to read that it breached my "not enough free time to waste it on things that annoy me" threshold. (I think I'd been waiting for an excuse to stop reading RPS ever since their daily output exceeded my ability to keep up with it, mind... I liked it a lot more when they didn't write so much.)
(edit: It's always nice to read a Tim Stone article, though... paging aside, I'm quite happy to have ended up at one of those :)
henke on 14/7/2015 at 12:31
Even if they split it up just to get more ad revenue from it, can you really blame them? Look at the amount of writing on just one of those pages. Disagree with the lists if you will, but you can't deny that a lot of thought and hard work went into compiling them. And all that thought and work takes time. And the money to pay the writers for all that time has to come from somewhere. Expecting RPS to provide articles of this size for the same amount of ad revenue they'd get from a single-page news story is unrealistic. And hating on them for doing so is rather petty.
Tony_Tarantula on 14/7/2015 at 14:29
SS2 counts as an FPS. I'd argue that "hybrid" games in which the core gameplay is based on FPS Mechanics(like Fallout 3/NV and SS2) are close enough to count.
Also I'd add MechWarrior 2 to the sim list.
Judith on 14/7/2015 at 15:13
Dungeon Master is 49th, Betrayal at Krondor is 39th, while Morrowind got the 4th place, fuck this shit already :mad:
I agree with Dark Souls though.
Malf on 14/7/2015 at 16:17
Yeah, my big disagreement is the low placement of Dungeon Master. I wouldn't be so noisy if it placed above Grimrock 2, but to place it below is to show a complete ignorance of DM's better designed and more robust systems. Sure, Grimrock and its sequel may be prettier, but their RPG systems are primitive by comparison. Character development in DM to this day is still the benchmark by which I judge games with no set classes.
AND YOU CAN'T KILL MONSTERS BY SLAMMING DOORS ON THEIR HEADS IN GRIMROCK.
Jason Moyer on 14/7/2015 at 16:24
Ctrl-F...Bard...0 of 0
Ctrl-F...Dragon Wars...0 of 0
Pass.
Sulphur on 14/7/2015 at 17:41
They got Ultima VII, VtM:B, BG2, PS:T and a bunch of other things in there like SS2 and Deus Ex, so it's at least hitting the right populist notes in the wrong order this time, instead of being just embarrassingly tone-deaf and ridiculous throughout.
Jason Moyer on 15/7/2015 at 05:38
RPS gonna RPS
Is Ultima VII really that amazing? I mostly remember the series from the Apple ][ days, and they didn't do much for me.
Sulphur on 15/7/2015 at 06:05
It was back in the day. Probably still is, though my biases won't let me do an objective assessment. The combat will forever be... clumsy, to put not too fine a point on it, but the world building and writing were leaps and bounds ahead of anything at the time. The writing's still good, your companions are great, there's a magic carpet with chairs on it, a three-headed hydra that makes fun of the conversation system, a half-naked fairy on a hidden island that throws glitterdust around and keeps kissing you and the rest of the party for no reason, and you can put people that irritate you in your backpack if you enable the hackmover. You also eventually learn a spell that lets you end the world whenever you want to, then walk around and see what you've wrought, and get told off by Lord British (and a few surprising other people who're immortal) for being a massive dick. Then, if you feel like it, you can kill Lord British by clicking on a plaque when he walks under it.
It's the greatest RPG I've ever played.
