scumble on 29/11/2017 at 09:53
That said there's nothing to be gained by getting annoyed at "The best X ever lists". Everyone's best ever lists are often influenced by nostalgia or what games one ended up playing, or what your tastes are. You can have strong feelings for games that were in retrospect, a bit crap.
Like this thing on a Vic 20 I played when I was 5 or 6:
[video=youtube;byM5vh3mzfA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byM5vh3mzfA[/video]
Won't ever forget it but it's a bit crap...
Renault on 29/11/2017 at 15:06
Quote Posted by scumble
That said there's nothing to be gained by getting annoyed at "The best X ever lists". Everyone's best ever lists are often influenced by nostalgia or what games one ended up playing, or what your tastes are. You can have strong feelings for games that were in retrospect, a bit crap.
I get that, it's like reading a movie review, it's just one guy's opinion. But when a prominent web site puts out a list of "Best Games of All Time" you don't really expect it to be "Best Games Most People Have Never Played" or "Here's A Cool List of Games People On Our Staff Really Like." Ya know?
Renzatic on 29/11/2017 at 15:34
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River Raid. COME ON!!!!.
H.E.R.O was better, especially on the 800XL. :crossed arms:
henke on 29/11/2017 at 17:23
Quote Posted by Brethren
I get that, it's like reading a movie review, it's just one guy's opinion. But when a prominent web site puts out a list of "Best Games of All Time" you don't really expect it to be "Best Games Most People Have Never Played" or "Here's A Cool List of Games People On Our Staff Really Like." Ya know?
Mmm, yeah. "Our favourite PC games" would be a more accurate title. Since no one person has played
every game, for an actual "Best Games Ever" list you'd need a much more rigorous selection-system and more work put in. Perhaps something like:
1. A panel of judges pick their favourite games
2. The top 50 games are compiled into a list
3. Every judge is required to play every game on the list that they haven't played yet
4. Votes are cast on the list of 50 games, resulting in a final top 10 list.
Of course that system isn't perfect either since the initial selection-process is limited to games that the judges are familiar with previously. What if the
actual best game ever is some obscure C64 title that was only ever distributed in Greece in the 80's?
Or maybe the best way to figure out the best games is to cut out human ranking altogether and rely on cold, hard numbercrunching of things like the (
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/pc/filtered?sort=desc) all-time metacritic ranking for best PC games.
SD on 29/11/2017 at 18:02
That is generally a more satisfying list, but there are still some glaring errors and omissions. Is Anachronox really only the 1,364th best PC game of all-time? Are there really 955 better PC games than Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines? Is Doom 3 really a better game than Thief II? I think the answer to all those is: clearly not.
Renault on 29/11/2017 at 18:43
Might be cool to make our own TTLG Best Games of All Time list. Sticky and update it yearly.
Starker on 30/11/2017 at 04:04
Best games get enough spotlight as it is. How about a modern underdogs list with a cut-off date of when HotU went belly up (2009). You could even have a top dogs list for the best underdogs.
Renzatic on 30/11/2017 at 04:14
I'd support making a sticky of best games as determined by the TTLG Collective. They don't necessarily have to be big AAA releases. Just anything anyone thinks is good.
scumble on 3/12/2017 at 14:27
There isn't an automated way to do that on the forum software - I have a suspicion there may be an external site we can use to collect the information, but I haven't got time to research it. Any suggestions?
