van HellSing on 15/11/2011 at 15:56
I just realized the game can be run without Steam, by running TESV.exe
I LOVE YOU, BETHESDA! :D
Ulukai on 16/11/2011 at 11:10
I Steamed. It's only like, a 6 GB download (Compare that to DA:Origins Ultimate at about 12GB or RAGE at 20GB).
I've long since run out of space to dedicate to physical media, so happy days.
Koki on 16/11/2011 at 14:11
Haha, yeah - the size is almost ironic considering MW3 is ~12GB in size for five hours of gameplay. And it's not like you can miss anything.
Sg3 on 28/11/2011 at 21:31
Evidently, Steam is a requirement, no matter how you buy it.
scottyd on 30/11/2011 at 17:12
Quote Posted by Koki
AFAIK all GFWL games can be "fixed" with a single .dll.
Dunno how legal that is though.
There is NOTHING illegal about someone modifying a game they bought, as long as they bought it it is theirs to own. a Person can make copies of something they own also for themselves, no matter what the publisher says or thinks, when you click agree when installing your going by a contract, but this does not mean it is law. However you can not make copies of a software and sell or give it to others who do not own or I mean have bought it. that is breaking the law.
I never use steam.. when I buy a program, I buy it,. it is mine no matter if I am, or I am not online.
NoDVD or bypass mandatory online DRM Fixes are legal. This has been known for YEARS.
Although you may be in breach of contract with them.
keep in mind though that the patches for skyrim will require steam. so it is a toss up!
have fun
Renzatic on 30/11/2011 at 17:39
Quote:
NoDVD or bypass mandatory online DRM Fixes are legal. This has been known for YEARS.
Although you may be in breach of contract with them.
Not if you live in the US. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act makes it illegal to bypass publisher laid DRM schemes.
Course it's practically unenforceable against individuals, and completely victimless if you're cracking a copy of a game you bought. But, it's still illegal according to some BS or another.
Koki on 30/11/2011 at 18:04
Quote Posted by scottyd
There is NOTHING illegal about someone modifying a game they bought, as long as they bought it it is theirs to own.
Right, and publishers get around this by only giving you a license to use their product, not actually selling it to you. Sidestepping most consumer protection laws in the process.
scottyd on 15/12/2011 at 01:43
Quote Posted by Koki
Right, and publishers get around this by only giving you a license to use their product, not actually selling it to you. Sidestepping most consumer protection laws in the process.
You are very correct.
They do indeed sidestep many consumer protection laws very often. They seem to cry wolf if they even think someone else steps out of place, but when the publisher or software developers break the law, to them they are only breaking or slight bending it. you know "jay walking" 31 mph in a 30 mph zone" .. little white law breaking isn't so bad- as long is it is them.
You know many of the older ones did the same thing, you know back in the 70's and 80's when EVERYONE recorded songs from the radio to a cassette tape. illegal yes. the musicians and song writers didn't cry and whie to the high heavens. now 20-30 years into the future, we have software developers who sell BROKEN software and get by with it.
We could and should see many huge "class action law suits" om crap software that is bug ridden, not finished or has anti piracy than can be harmful to the computer system. but the people who buy are soft hearted and forgiving. Forgiving to people who think we are all thieves and would have us put way if they had the chance.
Al_B on 15/12/2011 at 09:46
Quote Posted by scottyd
You know many of the older ones did the same thing, you know back in the 70's and 80's when EVERYONE recorded songs from the radio to a cassette tape. illegal yes. the musicians and song writers didn't cry and whie to the high heavens
(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music) Yes they did (at least in the UK).
