Marbrien on 5/4/2020 at 09:09
Quote Posted by Galaer
From the entrance to the Factory - go downstairs. There is really only 1 passage leading to Throne Room. Small bot will guide you.There is no small bot. Where exactly am I supposed to go?
DirkBogan on 5/4/2020 at 09:16
Marbrien: The entrance is in a very central location. It is a giant hallway underneath the giant glass window from which Karras looks out at you. This spot is marked 'K' on your map, east of the Assembling Section. There is a giant orange and marble compass rose looking detail on the ground, and a small bot should be standing there. If there is no bot, and you can still see Karras' giant metal portrait staring at you from this spot, something has gone wrong. This is a door, and it is supposed to open after his opening monologue ends.
Galaer on 5/4/2020 at 09:16
Quote Posted by Marbrien
There is no small bot. Where exactly am I supposed to go?
Um, maybe first explain where exactly you are.
Marbrien on 5/4/2020 at 09:22
Quote Posted by DirkBogan
Marbrien:
The entrance is in a very central location. It is a giant hallway underneath the giant glass window from which Karras looks out at you. This spot is marked 'K' on your map, east of the Assembling Section. There is a giant orange and marble compass rose looking detail on the ground, and a small bot should be standing there. If you can still see Karras' giant metal portrait staring at you from this spot, something has gone wrong. This is a door, and it is supposed to open after his opening monologue ends.Something has indeed gone wrong. I am standing in front of that door. It is closed and unfrobbable, but makes a metal sound when I hit it with the blackjack. I can hear a combat bot behind it. There may have been a small bot with a headlight in the area in front of that door earlier - now a long time earlier - but I think I disposed of it somehow because I regarded it as yet another potential threat. I assume I cannot now proceed, so this has all been a monumental waste of time. (As it happens, this is now the third mission in the competition which I have been unable to finish because of some sort of bug.)
DirkBogan on 5/4/2020 at 09:25
I'm really sorry that's happened, Marbrien. If it sounds like a bot is trying to get through, that's almost certainly the bot that I mean.
If you've had issues with two other submissions, I'd highly recommend going through the admitted hassle of trying a fresh install. Ensure that it's NewDark 1.27; some of the submissions require it.
Marbrien on 5/4/2020 at 09:44
I am using Thief 2 Final 1.27 [FMSel 1.1.2]. But I guess a reinstall may be in order. Do I just rerun the latest version of Tafferpatch?
I seem to recall that earlier I heard an announcement from Karras, I think it occurred when I first entered the factory area. But, as I say, there is no bot and the Karras door is shut.
DirkBogan on 5/4/2020 at 09:49
Tafferpatcher hasn't been up-to-date for years! You ought to use T2Fix: (
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149669)
Or, if you own the game on GOG.com, you won't need to update anything at all. It comes with the latest version of NewDark pre-installed, without any additional or unnecessary features.
Marbrien on 5/4/2020 at 09:54
Quote Posted by DirkBogan
Tafferpatcher hasn't been up-to-date for years! You ought to use T2Fix: (
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149669)
Or, if you own the game on GOG.com, you won't need to update anything at all. It comes with the latest version of NewDark pre-installed, without any additional or unnecessary features.
I meant T2Fix.
Are you sure you don't want a save game in case there is a bug in the FM?
Karras35 on 5/4/2020 at 10:01
Quote Posted by Marbrien
Something has indeed gone wrong. I am standing in front of that door. It is closed and unfrobbable, but makes a metal sound when I hit it with the blackjack. I can hear a combat bot behind it. There may have been a small bot with a headlight in the area in front of that door earlier - now a long time earlier - but I think I disposed of it somehow because I regarded it as yet another potential threat. I assume I cannot now proceed, so this has all been a monumental waste of time. (As it happens, this is now the third mission in the competition which I have been unable to finish because of some sort of bug.)
I think I know where you are. And no, nothing has gone wrong. It is not a bug. You can not go through that door yet. For this door you need the
factory key which you will find later. First you have to go to the
throne room with the army of copper soldiers and active 6 cannons and activate the giant elevator with the button on the throne. From up there new areas will become accessible. I think reinstalling the mission will not solve the issue. The challenge however is,
to reach the throne alive.Edit: Actually after checking his savegame, I have to admit there's really something wrong. (Also I thought he was talking about another door, my bad)
The door to the throne which should be open, is closed. Also the textures and meshes look old. I recommend a fresh install of T2/T2Fix 1.27b and restart of the mission.
DirkBogan on 5/4/2020 at 10:04
Karras35: you are confusing matters. Marbrien is confirmed to be standing in front of the door with Karras' face on it, which is guaranteed to open after you enter that area for the first time, no matter what entrance.
Marbrien: You can upload a save if you want. I'm not the right person to look into it, sorry to say...
But honestly, if you've had three submissions that couldn't be completed because of miscellaneous issues you've experienced, despite the fact that every submission can indeed be finished (and have been by numerous silent players and commentators here and elsewhere), it's a sure bet that your install is the culprit, not something going awry with these missions themselves.