makai81 on 1/6/2020 at 00:48
Haha! So I'm completely screwed - I'm pretty much back at the very beginning (normal guards are around) and I've never found blackjack nor the lockpicks, ghosting the entire mission :D I understand I'd need to replay from scratch as there's no way back to at least grab the blackjack? Not to mention I never stumbled upon lockpicks and wouldn't know where to look (sewers were SOOO dark) heh.
BTW, I'm playing v1.1, did not interrupt the conversation, but never got any additional objective :S
Schlock on 1/6/2020 at 00:56
You aren't actually expected to have found the lockpicks yet. The usual advice at this point is to review your objectives and then check your map, and then you should have an idea of where to go next.
Once you have the lockpicks, you'll find that you've looped right back to the area where you can find the blackjack.
Not sure about that objective not triggering though. Can you list the objectives you currently have here, just to make sure?
Samantha1 on 1/6/2020 at 11:58
Quote Posted by Schlock
You aren't actually expected to have found the lockpicks yet. The usual advice at this point is to review your objectives and then check your map, and then you should have an idea of where to go next.Once you have the lockpicks, you'll find that you've looped right back to the area where you can find the blackjack.Not sure about that objective not triggering though. Can you list the objectives you currently have here, just to make sure?
The objective for the lockpicks doesnt need to be triggered, its there from the beginning.
makai, I´m not sure how you missed to pick up your blackjack though. If I recall correct it was right there where you needed to head to get out at the beginning.
Galaer on 1/6/2020 at 13:05
Quote Posted by makai81
BTW, I'm playing v1.1, did not interrupt the conversation, but never got any additional objective :S
The same thing happened to me on my first playthrough. Shortly after conversation game crashed. But after reloading save before conversation I got new objectives. I was lucky that I tried that, I was ready to KO both of them.
makai81 on 1/6/2020 at 22:42
Quote Posted by Samantha1
The objective for the lockpicks doesnt need to be triggered, its there from the beginning.
makai, I´m not sure how you missed to pick up your blackjack though. If I recall correct it was right there where you needed to head to get out at the beginning.
Thanks, yes, the lockpicks objective is always on, I was talking about the additional objective (I guess) which never triggered after listening to the entire conversation.
The blackjack, well, I obviously didn't pay enough attention ;)
Quote Posted by Schlock
You aren't actually expected to have found the lockpicks yet. The usual advice at this point is to review your objectives and then check your map, and then you should have an idea of where to go next.Once you have the lockpicks, you'll find that you've looped right back to the area where you can find the blackjack.Not sure about that objective not triggering though. Can you list the objectives you currently have here, just to make sure?
Ok, thanks for hinting that - good to know the lockpicks are to be found so late in the mission.
The objectives I've got right now are:
[DONE] Initial escape
[NOT DONE] Find blackjack replacement
[NOT DONE] Find lockpicks replacement
[NOT DONE] Get out
Anyway, at this point I have to start from scratch as I've been quick saving only this entire time booo!
Dahenjo on 2/6/2020 at 02:27
Quote Posted by makai81
good to know the lockpicks are to be found so late in the mission.
FYI,
after getting rope arrows on the first underground trip you can fairly quickly go grab the lockpicks (and other loot/supplies on that side of the door), but don't pick the door yet which will block going back up to town, go back up well equipped and do everything in town then pick the door and do the remaining underground parts last.
Tank_Abbott on 22/6/2020 at 09:22
What an amazing FM, one of the best I've ever played really, teeming with atmosphere and inventiveness, the beginning was indeed a bit frustrating but after that the exploration was a joy. I've never seen a fm change dynamically in such a drastic way. I'm gonna play the other FMs in the contest but I'd be reeeally surprised if this one will be topped. :thumb:
Schlock on 29/6/2020 at 16:42
Since the author pseudonyms were not revealed along with the scores I'll throw it out there that I was Die Fugger, one of the authors of this mission.
Croissantine may or may not show him or herself, but to be clear this was very much their mission. I only helped enough to push this beast out in time for the deadline. I'm very happy to see that people enjoyed it, because I was afraid it would be too odd to perform well in a contest.
Sooner or later I will try to get to work on v1.2, which will fix some of the lingering annoying issues with ItO (e.g. walls that are hard to mantle over, terrain you can get stuck on, object hitboxes which aren't quite right), which should make it a more enjoyable adventure without really changing it :cool:.
I will also share the reviews that voters submitted along with their scores in this thread, once they are made available.
nightchild on 30/6/2020 at 13:32
oh, god... I have finished all objectives and I want to go back to the underground from the place with the crayman in pool and cradles in the room but now my way back has a rock blocking it... I also know that they fixed the damned hole from where you first enter the underground areas.I have seen this underground city but was lacking the lockpicks. I haven't found the sanctuary.Am I screwed because I decided to first to go up and then go down again? Please, help, what triggers the rock to block my way? I want to see if I can go back to some previous save of mine.Or, is there any other way that I can't still find, that takes me back there? I assume the area with the lock-picks is not connected to the area I want to go.
well, ignore me cry for help... I watched Fen's 3 part and show some light in my despair :P
Schlock on 30/6/2020 at 14:06
It sounds like you're on the right track, don't worry about going back. Go find your lockpicks (double check your objectives and map to see where) and things will work out. You should overhear a conversation when you leave the mansion, if you haven't already.