henke on 21/5/2009 at 09:15
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
Okaayyyy then.
Who are you talking to you lunatic!?!??? :eek:
Fingernail on 21/5/2009 at 09:42
THIS IS ALL DAN BROWN'S FAULT
Scots Taffer on 21/5/2009 at 10:21
You're not just telling us what we want to hear, are you?
Dia on 21/5/2009 at 12:31
Quote Posted by Nicker
Sixty years of sexual abuse compounded by slave labour to fill the pockets of the abusers. Condoned by the government and enabled by the bishops.
It's doesn't get much sicker than this.
Agreed. I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around the sheer number of children who were abused and the fact that The Church knew what was going on, but refused to do anything about it. The hearings in Ireland are a crock of shit considering no clergy were named (so some of them are dead - so what; what about the ones still alive??!), so there'll be no punishments for the perps and no closure for the victims. It's also scary to know that the offending clergy (well, those that aren't dead) will most likely just be assigned to a different parish, after having probably received just a slap on the wrist by The Church for their crimes just like here in the States. I just
can't understand why clergy who've abused & molested children aren't prosecuted for their crimes. Wtf is up with that?
One of the commission's recommendations is the creation of a memorial bearing Ahern's apology "to the victims of childhood abuse for our collective failure to intervene, to detect their pain, to come to their rescue." Instead of a statue of Ahern, they should erect a statue of a battered & abused child flipping everyone off and bearing words something similar to 'Thanks for all the intervention'.
jbairdjr on 21/5/2009 at 13:28
ST, I'm not sure what you meant by your comments. This is something to be taken quite seriously and Nicker and Dia hit it right on the head.
Good job Nick and Dia!
Macha on 21/5/2009 at 14:05
Quote Posted by Sgt_BFG
Lol, Ireland.
What you saying boy? :weird:
fett on 21/5/2009 at 15:14
I'm gonna throw a wide net here and just say that demanding celibacy for clergymen breeds pedophilia. Yes, I'm a rocket scientist.
june gloom on 21/5/2009 at 17:33
I'd like to posit that they didn't screen their priests stringently enough and let just anybody walk in willy-nilly and put on a collar. There were no background checks until Pope John Paul II instituted them (a case of locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen.) Sometimes there are obvious warning signs both before and after a fellow becomes a priest and they were ignored. As to why priests are kept on and just shuffled around when there's trouble is because there's so few priests to go around that they're deemed too valuable to let go.
Marecki on 21/5/2009 at 18:01
I've never thought I would say this but... I agree with dethtoll here. It used to be really easy to become a priest. As for the shuffling, I would say some Church officials still having delusions of said Church being as powerful as it was in the Middle Ages, or maybe simply feeling they are not responsible to anyone but God, has got something to do with in.
On a different note, I'm not quite fond of many of the current Pope's actions either.
gunsmoke on 21/5/2009 at 18:38
Quote Posted by jbairdjr
This is one of the reasons I don't go to Church anymore!
I think you secretly want to be beaten and raped.
