This is one of the reasons I don't go to Church anymore!

june gloom on 31/5/2009 at 22:13

Quote Posted by Singing Dancing Moose

As I alluded to in my trolling, a pedophile is someone's child. He didn't just pop out of a pool of ooze

(http://www.theonion.com/content/video/paleontologists_discover_skeleton) yes he did

DC on 31/5/2009 at 23:14

Quote Posted by Muzman

Here's something to bring a bit of unity to this whole thing.
(http://www.atheistmedia.com/2009/05/bill-donohue-denies-catholic-church.html)
Bill Donhue covers Catholics in glory once again

(My favourite bit is where his US TV tactic of shouting down the opposition for the full 3 minutes so they can't get a word in gets spanked by the moderator early on)

Thanks for linking that. I hadn't realised it was on the wider Net. I listened to it on the radio when it was on last Friday. I nearly put the fucking steering wheel through the radio. I thought Colm O'Gorman handled him excellently though.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jHqndf9Kx4) Here's an example of somebody who experienced this abuse first-hand in one of these institutions. Worth watching, even if just to see how strongly this still affects people.

Dia on 31/5/2009 at 23:46

Wow DC. That was so heartbreaking. It's even more heartbreaking to know how many other adults are still struggling emotionally and mentally because they were victims of rape by clergy members.

I just keep wondering when the governments are going to really do something to force the R.C. church to make those offending clergy accountable for their actions instead of continuing to protect them.

Tocky on 1/6/2009 at 03:57

By protecting them they are accessories to a crime. It's hard to believe they actually believe in the God they purport to. How many hail Marys does it take to clear ones soul of such a stain? How can there ever be enough? The only person a child trusts more is thier parents and horribly for them they urged thier children to trust these so called "men of God".

Whether it is done by the parents or some other authority they trust the impact on the child is permanent. No matter how any other person may treat them for the rest of thier lives they will never completely forget. Trust hysterical me on this.

The RC church hasn't just shot themselves in the foot. They shot themselves in the heart and exposed the fact they don't really have one. No government should allow them to escape unscathed by dent of what they claim to believe. They don't apparently. Perhaps better men will take thier place but those guilty of protecting these priests are not them.

I'm somewhat less forgiving than thier God as you may have noticed though. This thread is poison to my well being so I can't come back to it. Much better to take my nephew fishing.

june gloom on 1/6/2009 at 04:35

Quote Posted by Tocky

They shot themselves in the heart and exposed the fact they don't really have one.

Not that I'm disagreeing with your general sentiment but don't mix metaphors. It's unbecoming.

Kolya on 2/6/2009 at 07:25

They didn't shoot themselves in thier grammar.

june gloom on 2/6/2009 at 07:41

1) their*

2) metaphors != grammar

Kolya on 2/6/2009 at 08:22

Thanks for clearing that up, dethtoll.

oudeis on 2/6/2009 at 17:44

You can listen to both parts of the Donohue-O'Gorman radio debate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKLlxAgMO-w&feature=related) here. God almighty is Donohue a disingenuous, propogandist bucket of shit. Thankfully O'Gorman has the poise and the articulation to utterly destroy the prick.

massimilianogoi on 3/6/2009 at 07:22

Quote Posted by jbairdjr

A simple "we're ashamed" or "we're sorry" just doesn't do justice here! They fucking knew about (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052003809.html?hpid=topnews) this AND DID NOTHING but shuffle priests around! I hope everybody responsible for this burns in fucking hell!!!!!

The simple reason to don't go anymore to the church is earthquakes, tsunami or any natural catastrophe, or maybe also an accident: why god who should love us would kill us like this? Placing non sense rules of don't kill anyone while he kill without a valid reason million and million of humans and other animals. god yeah, exists, but surely he's not a god of love, he is impartial.