raevol on 24/8/2008 at 08:59
Quote Posted by Kolya
I don't know where you get that "stupid westerners" condescending BS from.
Are you serious?
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With
japanese comics my interest came back because they had stories and themes not aimed solely at children. Which I wasn't anymore. And the drawing style was so much more sophisticated.
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Great, an
american cartoonist managed to do the same in a limited way.
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And
I basically dislike american and most european style comics. The drawings are so clumsy once you read into some good mangas.
Also:
Quote Posted by Kolya
But take a look at Hobbes' tail: See how the stripes go over the tail and into the sky? Is that artsy or plain sloppy? See how the outline on his ass gets much fatter all of a sudden? You may say that's a shadow, but if you ever draw you will realise what a convenient way that is for correcting a shape that didn't come out right from the start. And Calvin's face is just two dots and two curved lines.
I know it's a different style. You can call it more abstract, I call it less detailed. In the end it's a question of how much effort and skill the artist put into the picture. I know I could paint that C&H picture. But there are many mangaka whose style I could never copy even if tried for years.
This really is a style thing. Watterson proves many times over in his work that he can draw with hyper-realism and such, but generally it's not in the style of the comic. The comic is loose and relaxed and doesn't take itself super seriously. But at the same time he goes out of his way to critique the entire art field. I give you this:
Inline Image:
http://www2.ivcc.edu/rambo/eng1001/CopyofMunchScream.jpgIs this a photorealistic picture? No.
Is this a picture without errors? No.
Is this picture highly regarded in the visual art field?
Yes.
The point is that this picture, as well as Watterson's work, attempt to capture a feeling. And disregarding Calvin & Hobbes just because it doesn't conform to your oval-eyed, big-tittied manga style:
Inline Image:
http://z.hubpages.com/u/93952_f520.jpgdoesn't mean it's inferior. It just means you have no appreciation.
Aja on 24/8/2008 at 09:00
I don't draw, Kolya, but that doesn't change the fact that Calvin and Hobbes is the most aesthetically pleasing newspaper strip ever created. Bill Watterson's illustrations breathe.
Why not post some examples of your mangaka and we can make inappropriate comparisons!
Vasquez on 24/8/2008 at 12:20
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When people pick up butter, marmalade, honey, mayonnaise etc with a DIRTY SPOON OR KNIFE
Agghhh this is horrible! :mad:
Usage of "then" for "than".
Baby screaming.
Kolya on 24/8/2008 at 13:21
Quote Posted by raevol
Are you serious?
I'm always serious. Love Hina! Whoohoo!
Oh and thanks for posting The Scream, I had never seen it before. You're one of those people who assume the other person is stupid because he doesn't agree with your tastes, right? We'll have a big time my friend.
Schattentänzer, I know Nihei did the Wolverine story. Is it ironic, that he likes it and I don't? You're right though, that Nihei isn't a good writer. It didn't matter with Blame!. But it started to show when he tried to make something different afterwards.
The Arkham Asylum pics look interesting, miles better than the usual superhero stuff. They actually have lighting in them.
fett on 24/8/2008 at 17:25
Fuckers who upload .mp4 files to p2p networks. Nobody gives a shit that you can play .mp4's
Mac fanboys
MS fanboys
Mr. Plastic, The Shmoo, and any other comic that came on after Fantastic Four
The new Scooby Doo cartoons
Fallout Boy
Evangelical televsion/radio/hairdos
Diakatana (still)
Precious Moments drawings/dolls/posters/amusement parks/thongs/etc.
Jesus fish/WWJD t-shirts, dolls, thongs, etc.
Atheists who won't shut the fuck up.
Pat Robertson
Stephen Colbert's time slot in my area
Not being able to afford Tivo right now
Airport food
James Joyce
Fat chicks in low cut shirts
Gay guys who lisp
Build-a-Bear workshop
The asinine lengths to which 'grills' have been taken
All movies starring Ice Cube
All movies starring Tim Allen
All movies after 1985 starring Steve Martin
Credit card junk mail
People who come to a complete stop before turning
Self-check outs that are closed (why? why?)
High Fructose Corn Syrup being added to every single fucking food I try to buy, including canned fruit. WHAT THE FUCK.
Flys
Spiders
Lemurs (those smug little shits are hiding something, mark my words)
Most any movie released on July 4th
Nickelback
Wall sockets/light switches that have been installed upside down
It's instead of its and you're instead of your. Third grade grammar dumbass
I have more. Will post them later.
The_Raven on 24/8/2008 at 18:46
Quote Posted by fett
MS fanboys
Is there really such a thing?
Look out, Dia!
raevol on 24/8/2008 at 20:24
Quote Posted by Schattentänzer
Edit: Also raevol, you're doing the same thing as Kolya. As much as there are a few decently drawn western comics, there are also decently drawn eastern ones.
True. I guess I just figure that with the criticisms he has of C&H that he doesn't understand art practice. I'll back off a bit.
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Oh and thanks for posting The Scream, I had never seen it before. You're one of those people who assume the other person is stupid because he doesn't agree with your tastes, right? We'll have a big time my friend.
I don't think you're stupid because you don't agree with me, I think you're stupid because you're criticizing Calvin & Hobbes for things that are completely untrue. I don't expect you to repent of your sins and become a C&H fanboy, I just don't understand how you can attack the art style and storytelling of one of the most highly regarded newspaper comics ever.
Thor on 24/8/2008 at 20:49
I hate... Our dumbed down civilization/society, Blizzard Entertainment (they made SC2 require Pixel shader 2.0 not pixel shader 1.4... :(), Dumbed down Youth, politicians, Russia (YES to racism! lol), and... so on... you get the idea.
