Thief's hero redesigned to be 'more mainstream'...relative to internal designs - by retractingblinds
Renault on 14/3/2013 at 20:45
I can't think of a single way that Garrett is similar to The Joker - how do you figure? Beyond not being an anti-hero, The Joker is 100% chaos and anarchy, Garrett is calm, collected, and his roots are with the Keepers, who preach balance.
SubJeff on 14/3/2013 at 23:09
Experiment.
Take the heroes of the last five games you've played. Don't include mute heroes like Gordon Freeman. Make sure you have 5.
Imagine them in a room with Garrett and The Joker.
Who is going to get on with who? Who will hate each other? Who will have some respect for each other regardless of whether they like each other or not?
Now tell me Garrett and The Joker are nothing alike.
PS. Garrett hates that balance crap. He complains about it several times.
skacky on 14/3/2013 at 23:14
Garrett and the Joker are nothing alike. On one side you have a chaotic neutral cynical thief who has a professional code but doesn't make a difference between the rich and the poor, he'll steal everything he can and there's nothing you can do to stop him. He'll ally with other people only if it satisfies his needs or if his life is threatened. On the other hand you have a murderous lunatic with insane behavior who's capable of doing everything and anything, who will kill with little to no second thoughts and who doesn't have any code to follow.
I'm sorry, but I fail to see their common points, except that they are both criminals.
SubJeff on 14/3/2013 at 23:36
And yet your description of Garrett fits the Joker almost perfectly.
Both are criminals who plan their crimes to the nth degree. Both do it for some internal reason, not for anyone else and not for some ideological cause. Both don't discriminate based on wealth or status.
june gloom on 15/3/2013 at 00:30
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http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/p/peer-review-630-75.jpgSorry, but Garrett's got a lot more in common with Catwoman, other than the whole "used to be a prostitute" bit (but then again who knows how Garrett pays the rent in lean months!) The Joker is an unpredictable tour-de-force who very few villains are willing to work with (to the point where he's often excluded from team-ups due to being a wild card.) He has a high capacity for incredible violence (crippling and implied rape of Barbara Gordon/Batgirl, beating Jason Todd/Robin II nearly to death then blowing him up along with the boy's estranged mother, tricking a cop into shooting his own men, attempting to kill all newborn babies in Gotham towards the end of the No Man's Land quarantine, murdering Commissioner Gordon's second wife, launching neutron bombs on New York City ("Look at it this way, at least this'll finally end
Cats!") building an army of deranged supervillains to stage a breakout from a high-security prison and wage war on the whole world, going on a sniper rifle rampage killing several high-profile targets such as the mayor and the superintendent of schools, before turning himself in, murdering a detective with little more than his handcuffs, a table and a phonebook, and starting a shooting spree within police HQ while the bombs he planted start going off...) His big schemes usually have to do with tearing down society (or Batman.) Joker is not a man to be nickied with. He is the
embodiment of chaotic evil. The Garrett comparison is ridiculous.
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_T4lPIVuRD3o/RZOjvM5x0DI/AAAAAAAAAEg/SEF7MwxXYX4/s400/Detective+826+(04).jpgjtr7 on 15/3/2013 at 05:19
Is that an early model or a fan rendition?
clearing on 15/3/2013 at 05:24
an early model
jtr7 on 15/3/2013 at 05:35
Thanks.
Palm down, little finger not tucked in, very angled compound bow... Yep. It's on its way to becoming the character in the blurry photo of the QA monitor. :D
SubJeff on 15/3/2013 at 06:12
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Your pure comparison of differing desire for violence, whilst accurate, is entirely 1 dimensional.
