bikerdude on 2/3/2008 at 09:30
Quote Posted by swaaye
Maybe Ken Levine should step in and rework his game's code to work with modern cards? :)
Or, if we had a wip round for Timeslip, so he could continue working on DDFix.. Say £1 from each of us..? if he has a PP account we could put the money in there...
biker
Simplex on 2/3/2008 at 12:19
Quote Posted by Bikerdude
The Video choppiness is universal with all version of DDfix, all you have to do is gently move the mouse (I move it in tiny circles myself) when a cutscene is playing.
Or you can try pressing scroll lock - in my case choppiness stops.
smithpd on 2/3/2008 at 16:38
Quote Posted by Tymec
I guess the only solution for this, rolling back notwithstanding, would be to get a faster computer?
I think the best solution, by far, is to get a slower computer (or your existing computer) and put an ATI X1950 Pro in it. I replaced my Nvidia 7950 GT with an X1950 Pro, and it works great without DDFIX. Yesterday I bought another X1950 Pro as a spare. If I am tempted to upgrade to a faster computer later, I can leave Thief behind on this one, use a KVM switch, and not get all annoyed with DDFIX.
I think it is too bad that Timeslip could not finish the DDFIX project.
smithpd on 2/3/2008 at 22:41
Quote Posted by Bikerdude
Also you know you can run both of those X1950Pro's in crossfire mode - they are 3rd gen cards so you dont need a master card etc...
biker
Thanks. I am not sure this will work with my Nforce 650i chipset. I have a little daughter card that you flip around to "enable SLI". The other PCI-E slot is inactive otherwise. SLI also needs a bridge. Do you think I can use two ATI cards doing crossfire in this configuration, without the bridge?
Simplex on 3/3/2008 at 06:45
Crossfire will only work on ATI (and few intel) chipsets. It definitely won't run on nVidia chipset - and vice versa, SLI will not run on any ATI chipsets.
bikerdude on 3/3/2008 at 07:41
Quote Posted by smithpd
. Do you think I can use two ATI cards doing crossfire in this configuration, without the bridge?
I didnt realise you had an nvidia based motherboard, as simplex said, its a non starter...
biker
Simplex on 3/3/2008 at 08:31
Hoping not to start any flame war here, I personally think that dual gpu solutions (CrossFire, SLI) are not too attractive - they generate much more heat (and often noise), require much more power (hence, need more powerful [and expensive] PSU), for two times the price you usually get no more than 1,5x perfomance gain (at best - in some cases the gain is zero). Last but not least, you are severely limited in choosing a motherboard - if you want crossfire, you cant have ati chipset, if you want sli, you cant have intel (and ati) chipset, etc.
I think that even if I could afford SLI/CF (which I can't ;) ) I would prefer to buy one more powerful graphics cards.
I could see a niche for SLI/CF for people with 30'' lcds and bigger, with resolutions of 1920x1200 and bigger - in such scenario the power of two graphics cards can make a difference - and if someone uses matrox' TripleHead2Go SLI/CF may also come in handy.
Okay, enough of my rant, this is not SLI advocacy topic :)
smithpd on 3/3/2008 at 14:42
You are absolutely correct if all video cards had about the same features and it was mainly a question of speed vs. money, which is the case for most people who do not play Thief. In that case, the economics, heat, etc, favor a single card. In my case, however, if I were to pay for more performance using a single card, I would need to change between a card that renders Thief correctly (X1950 Pro) to one that doesn't (ATI HD series or Nvidia 8000 series). This fact makes SLI / crossfire a possible option for me. Buying another computer and keeping my present one for Thief is another option. DDFIX is possible, but I am rejecting that.
Calibrator on 3/3/2008 at 16:13
Quote Posted by smithpd
You are absolutely correct if all video cards had about the same features and it was mainly a question of speed vs. money, which is the case for most people who do not play Thief. In that case, the economics, heat, etc, favor a single card. In my case, however, if I were to pay for more performance using a single card, I would need to change between a card that renders Thief correctly (X1950 Pro) to one that doesn't (ATI HD series or Nvidia 8000 series). This fact makes SLI / crossfire a possible option for me. Buying another computer and keeping my present one for Thief is another option. DDFIX is possible, but I am rejecting that.
If you keep a specialized Thief-machine a single X1950 Pro is fast enough
for all Thief games and fan missions at reasonably high resolutions and
quality settings.
You simply don't need Crossfire which not only sucks energy without any use
(desktop), is of debatable use (not all games really profit well from that),
is noisier than a single card (IMHO important with stealth games) and can
introduce new problems (e.g. micro stuttering).
I use an X1950XTX at the moment for my main machine and it's of course
faster than a Pro but when I make my "special machine" I'll install the Pro.
The XTX will then enter my graphics card museum. :sly:
Calibrator
