Nekulor on 29/4/2007 at 18:52
.EXE patch might be able to fix it, or an INI line to force 16 bit texture use. Personally, I'd like to see 32 bits used, but we can't have everything.
bikerdude on 29/4/2007 at 20:03
Quote Posted by Nekulor
.EXE patch might be able to fix it, or an INI line to force 16 bit texture use. Personally, I'd like to see 32 bits used, but we can't have everything.
As the game runs fine on previous nvidia cards its a driver issue, which means nVidia will have to step up on this one.
On my own front, Im looking at installing win98 on a usb key with a forced install of an older forceware version to see if that will fix the problem. Or failing that getting working on linux on a usb key..........Im hoping though that the new Ati/Amd card wont suffer from the prob.
biker
Nekulor on 29/4/2007 at 21:15
Someone should post on Guru3d and see if they can get a fix out. They are generally quick about this stuff.
bikerdude on 1/5/2007 at 10:33
Morning
Ive been been given the brush-off by eidos support, cant say im surprised or impressed.
So that leaves me back at square one. Is there anyone out there who has a 8800 series card that is playing thief that ISNT getting this problem..? as I would be curious to see what configuration if any would not produce what I and others have been getting..
biker
Sneak on 2/5/2007 at 22:10
Quote Posted by Nekulor
Someone should post on Guru3d and see if they can get a fix out. They are generally quick about this stuff.
Thats a good idea. Did anyone post over there yet?
bikerdude on 2/5/2007 at 22:34
Quote Posted by Sneak
Thats a good idea. Did anyone post over there yet?
Spent the last few hours testing all the latest flavours of the 158/162 drivers and its a resounds, Nada!
I tested the Z-tweaked(158.19 & 158.22, NGO 158.24, the nVidia beta 162.01 and I still get the freeking annoying 8bit issue still
FFS...
DaWizeGuy on 3/5/2007 at 10:34
Id this a Windows XP issue or does it apply to Vista too?
bikerdude on 3/5/2007 at 12:50
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Try disabling FSAA and AF (or one without other). I've encountered the same problem in System Shock 2 (they both use Dark Engine). Haven't tried yet but some guy said disabling FSAA and/or AF shoudl do it. I know it's not the same like playing game maxed out but it should be better with some jaggies but with normal textures. Or just pump up the resolution if you can...
Quote Posted by Komag
Have you tried any different drivers? Sometimes a newer card will work with older drivers even though it says it won't
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Id this a Windows XP issue or does it apply to Vista too?
This applies to WinXp and WinVista...!!!
I tried that, and several driver version's beta and Whql (from 97.97, 158.18, 158.19, 158.22, 158.24, 165.01), also modded drivers (Omega, Ngo, Z-tweaked, etc). It didnt make a damn bit of difference...same crappy banding and lack of depth in shadows. So it cant be an FSAA issue...!!!???
I shall wait for the HD2900XT and buy that instead and junk this 8800GTX on ebay or loot or anywhere else people might be interested.
In the mean time im buying a Belkin Omniview Soho kvm so I can play Thief on my laptop, but use my CRT and full size k/b and laser mouse.... nVidia you should be ashamed, but I wont be suprised if you dont give a F...
I have yet to hear from any taffers that have a 8800 card that can play T2 with out said problem.
biker
DaWizeGuy on 4/5/2007 at 10:22
Nvidia probably made some significant hardware changes which limits 16 bit rendering. Sadly reduced backwards compatibility is inevitable when technology changes. Therefore I doubt this issue will ever be fixed.
Slightly OT:
I also experience abysmal performance in Thief DS with my new 8800 GTX. 25-30 fps regardless of settings compared to 60+ fps on my old X1900XTX. Strange :weird:
bikerdude on 4/5/2007 at 13:10
Quote Posted by DaWizeGuy
Nvidia probably made some significant hardware changes which limits 16 bit rendering. Sadly reduced backwards compatibility is inevitable when technology changes. Therefore I doubt this issue will ever be fixed.:
Yeah I new about that, but I had hoped that they would allow for backwards compatabilty - there are plenty of other 16bit games out there...!!!
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Slightly OT: I also experience abysmal performance in Thief DS with my new 8800 GTX. 25-30 fps regardless of settings compared to 60+ fps on my old X1900XTX. Strange :weird
what driver version are you using..? T3 is fine for me at any res/setting. (currenty 1600x1200 max settings)
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I assume you tried the safe-texture-manager thing on and off.
Im sure I did, but I will check again when I get home
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Oh well, I guess that card is screwed Thief-wise. Too bad, and it bodes ill for the future as well
yer aint it just.
I did have some luck on another front though! I got T2 to play in vmware w/s 5 - almost...... The game loaded, menus were fine, got into the game - only one problem the screen was black. I could heard myself walking around etc LOL So when vmware make 3D support official Im gonna buy a copy and play T2 on that!
biker
