Jashin on 23/4/2008 at 01:55
I've always thought of these two titles as being separate, only that DX featured some elements of stealth. It took me a while but I've finally spotted the thief carry-over of (or made the connection to) the "smart guard/dumb guard" convo.
Quote:
CONVERSATION: MJ12 TROOP 1 & MJ12 TROOP 2
TROOP 1: Ahhhh. I need to rest my feet.
TROOP 2: You should go back to the barracks.
TROOP 1: What are they thinking? Eight straight hours of walking around a vacant cathedral? What's the point of that?
TROOP 2: They think he contacted Everett. He'll probably target the computer room.
TROOP 1: We should just smash that thing to pieces and all get a good night's sleep.
TROOP 2: Then there's the gold. The Illuminati are the only other organization that knows it exists.
TROOP 1: Yeah, like they could move forty tons of gold out of here withour being seen. Right.
TROOP 2: All the same. We don't know what they have planned.
It's the one convo in the cathedral kennel with the pissed-off chef. The dialog and the voiceoff wasn't being overly-apparent that troop1 is "benny."
There's also (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119158) Shannon of course, the Unatco HQ thief.
Any one else remember more direct references to Thief?
the one true thief on 23/4/2008 at 04:24
I had always thought the Cathedral was connected with the Templars. The game tells you that... :weird:
Never thought of it as a refernece at all...
Digital Nightfall on 23/4/2008 at 04:53
Warren's mentioned (to me, specifically) that DX contained homages to System Shock (underwater base), Thief (cathedral), and Underworld (catacombs).
ZylonBane on 23/4/2008 at 06:11
On the one hand, that's pretty cool.
On the other hand, it's a shame those are some of the worst levels in the game.
jtr7 on 23/4/2008 at 06:22
:laff:
I love this kind of stuff! And thanks, Digi.
How about the other way around? The first time we see a Keeper putting a key in a lock during a briefing, it's to open a chest with this written on it:
Inline Image:
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3271/tdpdeusexvl7.pngNameless Voice on 25/4/2008 at 00:56
He's locking a book, not a chest. But still, wow, I never noticed that. :o
jtr7 on 25/4/2008 at 06:28
:o
Quite right! Thanks for the correction!
I blame the close up of chains, and large machine sound fx! :p
ds024775r7 on 25/4/2008 at 12:28
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
On the one hand, that's pretty cool.
On the other hand, it's a shame those are some of the worst levels in the game.
What's wrong with the underwater base???
ZylonBane on 25/4/2008 at 15:09
Sorry, I refuse to interact with people who have unpronounceable usernames.
Pyrian on 25/4/2008 at 23:25
Quote Posted by ds024775r7
What's the wrong with the underwater base???
Almost absurdly linear, not much of interest going on, and generally a failure to build on the creepy premise (and music). It's pretty frequently cited as one of the worst levels of Deus Ex. The catacombs are better, albeit not a lot better. Maybe it's just that they're short.
...The Cathedral is IMO pretty cool. :angel:
