Beleg Cúthalion on 14/5/2013 at 05:36

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Seconded, even if the title indeed pointed towards a hyped This-isn't-old-Thief-anymore debate. Nerves are on the edge, ey?

Dia on 14/5/2013 at 14:22

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Sleep deprivation, being overly sensitive to any pro-T4 comments lately, and this:



I have to admit that at this point I'm so very angry with EM for (in my opinion, mind you) fixing everything that wasn't borked in the original Thief games that I'm probably painting demons on the wall every time I read another article about T4. That and lack of sleep doesn't help, either. I don't think it's my imagination that in every interview I've seen with D'Astous, Roy, etc., they come across sounding positively disparaging of the original games, which irks me to no end, especially when they keep reiterating that Thief fans are gonna love everything they're doing to T4. Highly unlikely in my case.

I think what really made it hit home was seeing those changes in action and actually playing a game with those very changes EM has stated they're making to T4. I've been playing the NuTomb Raider, which pretty much incorporates everything that EM has stated (to date) they are incorporating into T4. And the NuTomb Raider sucks bigtime because of all the flashy new aspects: auto-switching from 1st to 3rd person (optional in the first few original TR games), auto-slo-mo takedown scenes, auto cutscenes that freeze your controls (though after awhile you're given the option to skip them, not that it matters because any sense of immersion you had has already been broken), timed speed-runs that wreak havoc with your perception and point of view (though this feature was also in the original TR games, in this NuTR the now even more odd camera angles & switching make it so much more frustrating), Lara's new voice - the actress doesn't seem to be able to settle on either an American or British accent (sure, maybe it's minor, but it's still annoying and noticeable), Lara's NuLook which bears little resemblance to the original Lara I've known and loved all these years, and the infernal switching/freezing of the camera angle - which makes no sense at all, and is just awkward and distracting (though I'm not sure if this is something EM will be using in T4, it's still aggravating). Oh yeah; the original TR music, which I thought was pretty much a trademark, is gone as well. If EM goes ahead and incorporates all (or even most) of the above changes/aspects/non-options in NuThief, then in my opinion it's a guarantee that T4 is going to be a mess. You may be able to experience a few scant Thief-like moments in T4 (just like in NuTR), but for me it just won't be Thief - reboot or not.

Dia on 15/5/2013 at 02:49

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Nope. It's those confounded action movies, ya know.

;)

demagogue on 15/5/2013 at 16:33

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Yeah I noticed that too. The way I understood it, you get in proximity and hold down the button, and either there's a popup decreasing timer to hold it to get all their loot in one take, or the longer you hold it the more % of total loot on their body you take bit by bit, and the timer is for getting 100% ... and you're in a vulnerable position the whole time ... possibly also with hand swiping animations.

jtr7 on 16/5/2013 at 00:06

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We don't need reminders violence has always been there--especially in trailers and the intros--we know it was always a cheap option, but usually messy, unproductive overall, and with less payoff. Garrett, with his arsenal, has always been way overpowered once the player figured the games out, and still people call for more means to a violent solution, and want the combat made more skillful. The anti-violence campaign is aimed at not adding even more, not giving more attention to it than there already is, and pushing Thief's differences from other titles away from more of the same found elsewhere in everlasting abundance. You can kill if you want, especially not on Expert, especially non-humans, especially undead.