Renzatic on 12/6/2013 at 23:16
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Tell that to the judge ;)
What rubbed was Steph explaining that he wanted Thief to appeal across multiple user types (including aggressive players) because it would make sales "nice". Which is sorta the opposite of what you we're saying. Who knows what they'll actually deliver though.
Yeah, it is kinda contradictory. On one hand, you have EM saying it'd be very, very difficult to play the game as a pure melee brawler. That it's something only the most skillful and determined could do. On the other hand, you have dude guy saying that they want to fit the game to everyone's play style so it'll be more popular.
I think the biggest problem with modern AAA game developers is that they all talk like politicians in interviews. They almost always go for those vague happy medium answers that can be read multiple ways.
Too Much Coffee on 12/6/2013 at 23:53
The game is trying to do too much and catering to every play style imaginable. Despite its focus feature, it has no focus. The new Garrett is a jack of all trades, a master of none, figuratively speaking.
SubJeff on 13/6/2013 at 00:17
Deus Ex was a terrible game. All those options? Terrible.
Springheel on 13/6/2013 at 00:21
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And they couldn't in Thief 1 and 2?
Could you shoot arrows through a guard's helmet in T1/2? I don't recall.
It wouldn't surprise me, since pixel-based material detection was probably not around at the time. Not sure what the excuse would be now.
SubJeff on 13/6/2013 at 00:22
What frakking excuse? Why do you need an excuse?
Wood catches fire in Far Cry 2. What's the excuse for that?
Too Much Coffee on 13/6/2013 at 00:24
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Deus Ex was a terrible game. All those options? Terrible.
I know you get sidetracked easily. But to help you out, let me remind you that we are talking about Thief, not Deus Ex.
Springheel on 13/6/2013 at 00:32
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What frakking excuse? Why do you need an excuse?
Not quite sure what you're reacting to. You think it's acceptable in 2013/14 to NOT have per pixel material detection for projectiles?
SubJeff on 13/6/2013 at 00:39
You seem to be under the impression that you need to detect the material for some reason.
Springheel on 13/6/2013 at 00:47
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You seem to be under the impression that you need to detect the material for some reason.
Yeah, no reason to do that, I guess. Why would you want to treat hitting metal any different than hitting flesh?
SubJeff on 13/6/2013 at 00:52
It depends when he uses the bow. If its a focus shot I'll accept that the power is increased and it'll act like a bodkin and penetrate the helmet. It doesn't really matter how far it penetrates as the force will render the target unconscious anyway.
If its not a focus shot it'd be a shame if it didn't take armour into account, but even then you could argue that it makes little difference; arrows can penetrate armour.
