Thief 3 Gold - Public beta test (TDS Spoilers ahead, obviously!)

Sunderland on 27/3/2023 at 02:19

Quote Posted by snobel

These are the same in the original game and not caused by Thief 3 Gold or the Sneaky Upgrade patch?

Yes, all these happen in vanilla. You can test the first one about the mechanical eye with the guest book in the inn reception, if the eye is active the book appears brightened up.

Quote Posted by snobel

The volume could probably be adjusted with a schema file override but it's appropriate that you get startled when you get arrested? :p

:laff: :laff: I guess you're right, not only is poor Garret beaten unconscious before being dragged to prison, he also almost has a heart attack!

Quote Posted by snobel

The one for the victrola does show a subtitle, but the <at> tag used for cutscene subtitles doesn't work here. So there can be only one line and it would show immediately after frobbing, not synced with the voice.

I see, that must why they didn't have any subtitles show up then. There is another victrola near the elevator in the room with the Eye that has Karras saying something but it also doesn't have subtitles, presumably for the same reason.

Quote Posted by snobel

This is due to a work-around in the SU code and not easy to fix, unfortunately.

I see, I wasn't aware that was the case.

Thank you for the quick response! :thumb:

Cheers!

snobel on 3/8/2023 at 18:52

As a prelude to the upcoming Thief 3 Gold 1.4 release, here's a list of the various improvements and fixes - by Beleg and myself, with skin fixes provided by Glypher. Items in bold are changes since the beta release:

Improvements:

* All merged mission maps:

* Map name as used on the pause screen, save games and loading screens now use the original strings and textures for the two original half-maps

* Inn:

* More AI on difficulties above Normal
* The new exit from the Inn now hidden on Easy difficulty
* On difficulties above Easy, a final "go back to where you started" objective is now added
* Reworked the special loot items
* Optionally disable tutorial pop-ups for consumables

* Museum1:

* The staircase in the new section connecting the two original maps now has a door at both ends

* SouthQuarter1:

* Made it possible to skip the final cutscene

Fixes:

* Inn:

* Fixed the Inn keeper behaving weirdly on difficulties above EASY
* Fixed the stats for knock-outs being wrong
* Fixed a couple of rats in the basement being weird
* Fixed accidentally moved footprints
* Various fixes of lighting, shadowcasting etc

* Castle1:

* Fixed missing oven door
* Restored the probabilities for Lord Ember's patrols to the orig values
* Fixed Ember getting stuck on the end of the bed after returning from the long patrol
* Fixed a guard carrying an inverted sword

* HammerIntro1:

* Fixed "Objective Incomplete" message
* Fixed Greidus getting stuck on his office door
* Fixed (hopefully) Greidus getting stuck between the church door, a crate and his body guard...

* Dungeon1:

* Improved conversation by egg-stealing Ratbeasts ending prematurely because of a Kurshok attacking
* Fixed fight between two Pagans and two Kurshoks starting prematurely
* Removed a redundant note
* Added an unused (but relevant) note about the hatchery
* Fixed missing comment from Garrett after taking the Crown
* Fixed a voice-over triggering volume near the Crown (T3G bug)

* SeasideMansion1:

* Optimized the visibility of chains on the two lifts. You now see all four when you first approach, and when you're standing on the lift
* Fixed the chains cutting into the lift going up from the water
* Fixed gaps under some vertical beams around the same lift
* Fixed the DrawScale on one of the wooden columns in the mansion
* Fixed the Compendium skin. (Provided by Glypher)
* Fixed a conversation line being assigned to the wrong NPC

* Clocktower1:

* Fixed a Hammerite carrying a purse in a weird way. (Inverted sword syndrome)

* HauntedHouse1:

* Removed Lauryl's footstep sound
* Added four missing patient journals
* Fixed fireplace above the lobby: invisible flames and sound while unlit, untextured brush, too large collision hull

* Museum1:

* Fixed broken portal near the cyclops statue
* Fixed overlapping Garrett/Eye speech
* Fixed six wall-mounted double candles which had LightColor set to black. (Used low brightness to avoid changing the lighting too much)
* Added subtitles to the victrola message in the curator's office. (Translations by Beleg, lowenz and Athalle)

* SouthQuarter1:

* It was possible to get to Docks2 prematurely, although you couldn't get far. No way to get back into the map proper. Fixed by adding a couple of invisible walls. Added a couple more beams for better visuals when you're standing on the pipes
* Replaced autospawning thugs carrying inverted swords with an unused, correct thug archetype
* Fixed a stuck Enforcer in Black Alley
* Fixed the wall popping through a column opposite the entry to Garrett's apartment building

* SouthQuarter3:

* Fixed three guards carrying inverted swords

* Stonemarket1:

* Fixed invisible Enforcers not being invisible
* Fixed a glyph hanging in the air after Artemus has opened the Library glyph door

* Stonemarket2:

* Fixed thug (at the stonecutter's) carrying an inverted sword
* Replaced autospawning thugs carrying inverted swords with an unused, correct thug archetype
* Fixed a door overlapping a screen when open
* Fixed the conversation at the stonecutter's ending prematurely if you'd looted the shop before the conversation starts

* Stonemarket3:

* Fixed the skins of male Keeper Elders and Caduca. (Provided by Glypher)
* Fixed an inverted sword on a Keeper Elder (assuming it's intentional that he's carrying a sword, not a wand)

* Docks2:

* Fixed missing footstep sounds on the street going up to the Old Quarter gate
* Activated a conversation in the tavern

* Docks3:

* Fixed the skin on a lamp in the captain's cabin. (Provided by Glypher)
* Fixed the First Mate's log being unreachable

* OldQuarter1:

* Enabled first-visit briefing for OldQuarter
* Restore door glyph upgrade even if the Keeper Compound map was skipped using Shift+Control+Alt+End
* Fixed "book OQ_HauknorReformed not found" (by keeping the initial book content)
* Fixed a hammerite (only present on day 7) getting stuck at one end of his patrol
* Fixed the same hammerite carrying an inverted sword instead of a hammer
* Fixed a couple of sunken arrows in the Tavern
* Removed Lauryl's footstep sound
* Fixed the Auldale gate conversation which had many lines missing

* OldQuarter3:

* Fixed missing footstep sounds on parts of the spiral staircase going down to the crypt
* Fixed missing map name in teleporter pop-up
* Removed Lauryl's footstep sound

* Auldale1:

* Fixed canal access hatch sign in the pump house
* Fixed three candles in the goldsmith's shop which had no flames
* Fixed a guard carrying an inverted sword

New Horizon on 7/8/2023 at 14:46

I absolutely love that work continues on Thief 3 Gold. I can't wait to try the latest release!

Quote Posted by snobel

As a prelude to the upcoming Thief 3 Gold 1.4 release, here's a list of the various improvements and fixes - by Beleg and myself, with skin fixes provided by Glypher:

Improvements:

* All merged mission maps:

* Map name as used on the pause screen, save games and loading screens now use the original strings and textures for the two original half-maps

* Inn:

* More AI on difficulties above Normal
* The new exit from the Inn now hidden on Easy difficulty
* On difficulties above Easy, a final "go back to where you started" objective is now added
* Reworked the special loot items
* Optionally disable tutorial pop-ups for consumables

* Museum1:

* The staircase in the new section connecting the two original maps now has a door at both ends

* SouthQuarter1:

* Made it possible to skip the final cutscene

Fixes:

* Inn:

* Fixed the Inn keeper behaving weirdly on difficulties above EASY
* Fixed the stats for knock-outs being wrong
* Fixed a couple of rats in the basement being weird
* Fixed accidentally moved footprints
* Various fixes of lighting, shadowcasting etc

* Castle1:

* Fixed missing oven door
* Restored the probabilities for Lord Ember's patrols to the orig values
* Fixed Ember getting stuck on the end of the bed after returning from the long patrol
* Fixed a guard carrying an inverted sword

* HammerIntro1:

* Fixed "Objective Incomplete" message
* Fixed Greidus getting stuck on his office door
* Fixed (hopefully) Greidus getting stuck between the church door, a crate and his body guard...

* Dungeon1:

* Improved conversation by egg-stealing Ratbeasts ending prematurely because of a Kurshok attacking
* Fixed fight between two Pagans and two Kurshoks starting prematurely
* Removed a redundant note
* Added an unused (but relevant) note about the hatchery
* Fixed missing comment from Garrett after taking the Crown
* Fixed a voice-over triggering volume near the Crown (T3G bug)

* SeasideMansion1:

* Optimized the visibility of chains on the two lifts. You now see all four when you first approach, and when you're standing on the lift
* Fixed the chains cutting into the lift going up from the water
* Fixed gaps under some vertical beams around the same lift
* Fixed the DrawScale on one of the wooden columns in the mansion
* Fixed the Compendium skin. (Provided by Glypher)

* Clocktower1:

* Fixed a Hammerite carrying a purse in a weird way. (Inverted sword syndrome)

* HauntedHouse1:

* Removed Lauryl's footstep sound

* Museum1:

* Fixed broken portal near the cyclops statue
* Fixed overlapping Garrett/Eye speech
* Fixed six wall-mounted double candles which had LightColor set to black. (Used low brightness to avoid changing the lighting too much)

* SouthQuarter1:

* It was possible to get to Docks2 prematurely, although you couldn't get far. No way to get back into the map proper. Fixed by adding a couple of invisible walls. Added a couple more beams for better visuals when you're standing on the pipes
* Replaced autospawning thugs carrying inverted swords with an unused, correct thug archetype
* Fixed a stuck Enforcer in Black Alley
* Fixed the wall popping through a column opposite the entry to Garrett's apartment building

* SouthQuarter3:

* Fixed three guards carrying inverted swords

* Stonemarket1:

* Fixed invisible Enforcers not being invisible
* Fixed a glyph hanging in the air after Artemus has opened the Library glyph door

* Stonemarket2:

* Fixed thug (at the stonecutter's) carrying an inverted sword
* Replaced autospawning thugs carrying inverted swords with an unused, correct thug archetype
* Fixed a door overlapping a screen when open
* Fixed the conversation at the stonecutter's ending prematurely if you'd looted the shop before the conversation starts

* Stonemarket3:

* Fixed the skins of male Keeper Elders and Caduca. (Provided by Glypher)
* Fixed an inverted sword on a Keeper Elder (assuming it's intentional that he's carrying a sword, not a wand)

* Docks2:

* Fixed missing footstep sounds on the street going up to the Old Quarter gate

* Docks3:

* Fixed the skin on a lamp in the captain's cabin. (Provided by Glypher)

* OldQuarter1:

* Enabled first-visit briefing for OldQuarter
* Restore door glyph upgrade even if the Keeper Compound map was skipped using Shift+Control+Alt+End
* Fixed "book OQ_HauknorReformed not found" (by keeping the initial book content)
* Fixed a hammerite (only present on day 7) getting stuck at one end of his patrol
* Fixed the same hammerite carrying an inverted sword instead of a hammer
* Fixed a couple of sunken arrows in the Tavern
* Removed Lauryl's footstep sound

* OldQuarter3:

* Fixed missing footstep sounds on parts of the spiral staircase going down to the crypt
* Fixed missing map name in teleporter pop-up
* Removed Lauryl's footstep sound

* Auldale1:

* Fixed canal access hatch sign in the pump house
* Fixed three candles in the goldsmith's shop which had no flames
* Fixed a guard carrying an inverted sword

Beleg Cúthalion on 11/8/2023 at 13:00

That's a pretty impressive list, especially since I did not contribute a lot to it. :p Congrats!

snobel on 17/9/2023 at 07:04

I've updated the (https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143658&p=2504015&viewfull=1#post2504015) list above with additional fixes which were done after the beta release.

Quote Posted by snobel

Quote Posted by Sunderland

The victrola with self-help advice in the museum curator's office doesn't have subtitles, it's the only instance where subtitles are lacking from what I could tell!

I tried both overrides. The one for volume works fine. The one for the victrola does show a subtitle, but the <at> tag used for cutscene subtitles doesn't work here. So there can be only one line and it would show immediately after frobbing, not synced with the voice.

This is one of them, because as it turns out it's not any worse than other subtitled victrola messages in the game.

Pat1991 on 19/5/2024 at 14:53

Has the patch been released yet?

snobel on 20/5/2024 at 05:53

It has - as T3 Gold 1.4 bundled with the latest Sneaky Upgrade.