Thief 2 Windows 7 64-bit

Albert on 4/8/2010 at 17:58

Okay, so I've got this problem w/ Thief 2.

But just so you guys know what actually works:

1. I've installed T2 and it actually runs.
2. I've tried several DDFIX versions, but have returned to 1.4.5, because stability-wise it has more pros than cons. Though, maybe I'm just paranoid.
3. And it runs...

But I find this odd problem with keypresses and how I can only hold down so many keys at once. I haven't played thief in a while, but I distinctly remember, being able to run forward, and crouch at the same time.

However, I've been having trouble doing that. When I run forward, I find I have to release all the keys, and press crouch to continue. It's absolutely annoying. Now, I could've brought up my troubles with pixilation (Though I'm now assuming that's more a problem of AA and the crummy textures that by todays standards, need updating), but this problem persists the most, and thus, I gotta figure out what I can do about it.

DJ Riff on 4/8/2010 at 20:02

Do you have any programs running in background which may use some key combinations that interfere with the game (such as language switchers, translators, keyboard/mouse configuration programs, etc)? Check your system tray and startup settings and disable suspicious ones.

And please post contents of your dark.bnd file.

ffox on 4/8/2010 at 20:11

You can sort your problem out in Options > Customize Controls. I've got Run Forward bound to Up + Shift and Hold Crouch bound to Keypad_Del and they work well together. Select combinations that suit your special needs.

If you are computer savvy, also have a look in the user.bnd file (use a text editor).

What on earth has Thief 2 keybinds got to do with Windows 7 64? I should change the thread title if I were you.

Albert on 4/8/2010 at 21:20

Code:

; Thief 2 Default

climb_touch 0
goal_notify 1
auto_search 0
auto_equip 1
joystick_enable 0
bow_zoom 1
mouse_invert 0
lookspring 0
freelook 1
mouse_sensitivity 3.0

; bindings
bind shift +runon
bind keypad_enter +runon
bind alt +slideon

bind w +walk
bind keypad_up +walk
bind up +walk

bind s +backfast
bind keypad_center +backfast
bind down +backfast

bind x crouch
bind keypad_down crouch
bind keypad_del +crouchhold

bind a +moveleftfast
bind keypad_left +moveleftfast
bind left +moveleftfast

bind d +moverightfast
bind keypad_right +moverightfast
bind right +moverightfast

bind z +turnleftfast
bind keypad_end +turnleftfast

bind c +turnrightfast
bind keypad_pgdn +turnrightfast

bind t +lookup
bind pgup +lookup

bind g +lookdown
bind pgdn +lookdown

bind v lookcenter
bind del lookcenter

bind q +leanleft
bind keypad_home +leanleft

bind e +leanright
bind keypad_pgup +leanright

bind w+alt +leanforward

bind space +jump
bind keypad_ins +jump

bind mouse1 +use_weapon
bind mouse2 +use_item
bind mouse3 +block
bind mouse_axisx mturn
bind mouse_axisy mlook

bind b +block

bind r drop_item

bind enter +use_item

bind tab next_item
bind tab+shift prev_item

bind keypad_star next_item
bind keypad_slash prev_item
bind mouse_wheel next_item

bind backspace clear_item

bind keypad_plus next_weapon
bind keypad_minus prev_weapon

bind ~ clear_weapon
bind ` clear_weapon
bind 1 "inv_select sword"
bind 2 "inv_select blackjack"
bind 3 "inv_select broadhead"
bind 4 "inv_select water"
bind 5 "inv_select firearr"
bind 6 "inv_select EarthArrow"
bind 7 "inv_select GasArrow"
bind 8 "inv_select RopeyArrow"
bind 9 "inv_select noise"

bind F1 "inv_select HealingPotion"
bind F2 "inv_select AirPotion"
bind F3 "inv_select invisipotion"
bind F4 "inv_select slowfall"
bind F5 "inv_select speedpotion"
bind F6 "inv_select LockPickSM"
bind F7 "inv_select LockPickLG"
bind F8 "inv_select FlashBomb"
bind F9 "inv_select GasMine"
bind F10 "inv_select Mine"
bind F11 "inv_select cameragrenade"
bind F12 "inv_select compass2"
bind f "inv_select flare"

bind F10+alt screen_dump

bind ] zoominsome
bind [ zoomoutsome
bind p zoomoutfull

bind m automap
bind o objectives

bind v+alt+shift dark_version

bind ESC sim_menu

bind alt+s quick_save
bind alt+l quick_load

bind - "gamma_delta 0.025"
bind _ "gamma_delta 0.025"
bind + "gamma_delta -0.025"
bind = "gamma_delta -0.025"

bind + gamma_up
bind = gamma_up
bind - gamma_down
bind _ gamma_down

bind < main_volume_down
bind , main_volume_down
bind > main_volume_up
bind . main_volume_up

bind joy_axisx +joyxaxis
bind joy_axisy +joyforward
bind joy_axisr rudderturn

bind ctrl+alt+shift+end "win_mission"

Albert on 8/8/2010 at 21:25

OK, I would've hoped putting up the text in my dark.bnd file up would've gotten a quick answer to my dilemma, so let me follow that up with even more problems I'm having.

It feel like it's hard to run. I don't think I'm running as fast as I can w/o a speed potion. Anybody ever had this happen before?

Albert on 8/8/2010 at 22:50

Quote Posted by ffox

What on earth has Thief 2 keybinds got to do with Windows 7 64? I should change the thread title if I were you.

Yeh, the title is a bit deceiving. I started the thread in hopes of solving some problems related more-so to my graphics than anything. However, I still have a few tiny problems, OS-wise. I'll bring them up after I've solved the control problems.

ffox on 9/8/2010 at 14:19

Your dark.bnd file is not standard, but it does hold most of the default key binds. However, if any of the key binds have been changed in Thief, dark.bnd is ignored and Thief uses user.bnd instead. If user.bnd exists the bindings in that file are what will show up in OPTIONS > CUSTOMIZE CONTROLS. Any subsequent changes you make will also show up in user.bnd.

You need to experiment with the key bindings. Note that it is possible to "scale_player_speed". An example of a good user.bnd is(http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114292&p=1899667&viewfull=1#post1899667) here.

If all else fails, uninstall Thief completely and start afresh, installing it with (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131106&p=1965795&viewfull=1#post1965795) Tafferpatcher. That does all the tricky stuff for you.