damdifyno on 10/7/2012 at 00:14

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I am about ready to give up here. I played Thief perfectly on my XP. Then the hard drive died, so I bought a new computer with Windows 7 Premium. Thief2 will not run. Thief3 seems to work, though. I was able to get through the training mission. Here is what I have tried.
I have searched and searched. Found Salvage's instructions for the nonpermanent and the permanent multiprocessor/hyperthreading fix. Downloaded imagecfg. When I tried the nonpermanent fix, Windows would not allow me to change the affinity. Access denied. When I tried the permanent fix, I created the processor.bat file. The instructions say to put quotes around it, but Windows would not allow that either. When I double click it as the instructions say, it just opens up for editing. Also, there does not seem to be a Windows\system32\dllcache folder, so I unzipped imagecfg to only Windows\system32.
Searched some more, and found the ddfix. Downloaded that, and unzipped it. Also downloaded the prepatched thief2.exe, and unzipped that. Now when I try to start T2 in garrettloader 1.41, it says that I do not have directx version 7 or later. But I do. I have directx 11. Does the computer see the ones as less than 7? Surely this is an old problem that has been fixed, but I could not find anything. I keep hitting road blocks. If I buy the thief games from Steam, which I would rather not do, they would probably work on Windows 7 premium, right?
Another question: If I buy the Thief games from Steam, will I be able to run FMs?
Does anyone have any suggestions? I miss the Thief series, especially T2. Thanks for any help.

damdifyno on 10/7/2012 at 03:18

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I will try that. Thank you. I appreciate it.

damdifyno on 10/7/2012 at 23:15

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Oh, well. I tried. It still doesn't work. Thanks anyway.
I can play the intro, and get to the menu. As soon as a mission starts, the game locks up with a black screen. Can't even start the mission.
My computer is a 64 bit. Does that matter?
One thing I noticed is that in the video menu, there is nothing showing for the hardware driver. I don't remember if anythng was there before, but shouldn't there be? Also, my computer has 6 cores. Does that matter?
thanks anyway, Yandros.

damdifyno on 11/7/2012 at 01:02

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Does the following info help?
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System Information
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Time of this report: 7/10/2012, 19:58:50

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: h8-1234
BIOS: BIOS Date: 04/17/12 13:39:40 Ver: 7.05
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6120 Six-Core Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Memory: 10240MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 10006MB RAM
Page File: 2093MB used, 17915MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7450
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x677B)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_677B&SUBSYS_24961462&REV_00
Display Memory: 1657 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1006 MB
Shared Memory: 650 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: unknown
Monitor Id: MAG03DA
Native Mode: unknown
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1116 (English)
Driver Version: 8.941.3.0
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/11/2012 16:58:24, 942592 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-243B-11CF-8E73-9C04BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x677B
SubSys ID: 0x24961462
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem5.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_NI:8.941.3.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_677b&subsys_24961462
Rank Of Driver: 00E60001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers / Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76C7&SUBSYS_103C2AC8&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: stwrt64.sys
Driver Version: 6.10.6367.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 12/23/2011 05:15:09, 535040 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: IDT
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Digital Output (S/PDIF) (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76C7&SUBSYS_103C2AC8&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: stwrt64.sys
Driver Version: 6.10.6367.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 12/23/2011 05:15:09, 535040 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: IDT
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Communications Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76C7&SUBSYS_103C2AC8&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: stwrt64.sys
Driver Version: 6.10.6367.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 12/23/2011 05:15:09, 535040 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: IDT
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Stereo Mix (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: stwrt64.sys
Driver Version: 6.10.6367.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 12/23/2011 05:15:09, 535040 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x0
Format Flags: 0x0

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x8021
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x8021
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x8021
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x8021
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4399
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x8021
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x062A, 0x0000
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 846.8 GB
Total Space: 936.0 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Hitachi HDS721010CLA630 SCSI Disk Device

Drive: D:
Free Space: 2.2 GB
Total Space: 17.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Hitachi HDS721010CLA630 SCSI Disk Device

Drive: F:
Free Space: 70.4 GB
Total Space: 238.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD25 00BEVS-22VAT0 USB Device

Drive: E:
Model: hp DVD-RAM GH80N SCSI CdRom Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), , 0 bytes

Drive: G:
Model: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22LP20 USB Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1603&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&C3
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5A16&SUBSYS_5A141002&REV_00\3&11583659&0&10
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_00\3&11583659&0&B0
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor PCI Bus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4384&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_40\3&11583659&0&A4
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1602&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&C2
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5A14&SUBSYS_5A141002&REV_02\3&11583659&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_00\3&11583659&0&98
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_40\3&11583659&0&A2
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1601&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&C1
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A3&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&11583659&0&AB
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_00\3&11583659&0&90
Driver: n/a

Name: Broadcom WLAN Adapter
Device ID: PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_4357&SUBSYS_057014E4&REV_01\4&EDB6346&0&00AA
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1600&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&C0
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A2&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&11583659&0&AA
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_00\3&11583659&0&B2
Driver: n/a

Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_06\4&693E52D&0&00AB
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA98&SUBSYS_AA981462&REV_00\4&2534E90F&0&0110
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A1&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&11583659&0&A9
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_00\3&11583659&0&9A
Driver: n/a

Name: Texas Instruments XHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_8241&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_02\4&5DC256B&0&0028
Driver: n/a

Name: AMD Radeon HD 7450
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_677B&SUBSYS_24961462&REV_00\4&2534E90F&0&0010
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A0&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&11583659&0&A8
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_00\3&11583659&0&92
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1605&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&C5
Driver: n/a

Name: AMD IOMMU Device
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5A23&SUBSYS_5A231002&REV_00\3&11583659&0&02
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439D&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_40\3&11583659&0&A3
Driver: n/a

Name: AMD AHCI Compatible RAID Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4393&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_40\3&11583659&0&88
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1604&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&C4
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5A19&SUBSYS_5A141002&REV_00\3&11583659&0&28
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4399&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_00\3&11583659&0&A5
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4385&SUBSYS_2AC8103C&REV_42\3&11583659&0&A0
Driver: n/a

voodoo47 on 14/7/2012 at 18:14

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try updating your video drivers, and make sure you are not forcing FSAA via the control center. reinstall the game, use tafferpatcher (this is the only thing you'll ever need) and use ddfix 1.5.5 instead of the latest one.