Thief 2 FM: King's Story (released on April, 8, 2010)

1982hitman on 8/10/2010 at 14:05

Zontik, let me congratulate you it was a great mission, a little bit tricky on a few places but otherwise excellently done. I didn't had the usual problems as the most of the guys, I found back door right away - also the lock opposing the door. No issue shooting arrow into the lever either.
But - first time I tried to play second part, I missed the choice part because like a regular thief I took the crown right away without waiting. Then I was almost pulling my hair because I didn't know that the choice will basically end the game. Maybe a notice of the choice on top of the screen saying it will help.

Great things - Ballerina shoes, complex lock in the first part, design of the palace, graphics and also I enjoyed the story very much. Most things were quite logical to me, except for the throne room puzzle.

There were only a few things that really bothered me - switches too well hidden, somehow I didn't had any map during the whole game (perhaps didn't find it). I would suggest name tags on the doors that open after special triggers.

janiejoey on 8/10/2010 at 20:23

Zontik,

Where is the secret wall in the wine cellar? According to the forum there is a place like that. I've looked from one end to the other in the wine cellar. Can't find it.

I got the top tower key from the library. What floor and where do I open a door with this key? Could this be the exit key?

How do you get into the Attic? The door is locked! Tried to unlock it with Top Tower Key, but it won't open.

When opening the door on the 3rd floor where Garret is suppose to help open, I used a lock pic. There was a scene with Anger in it but I wasn't fast enough to take the potion to kill Anger. How can I be quick enough? I also use the Top Tower Key on it, and it won't open.

The castle is so elegant! That's how I would envision a castle. Way beyond the norm, I can't wait to start it all over again. This time enjoying more of it.

Janie

janiejoey on 10/10/2010 at 18:01

Found the door to the Top Tower Key:D, funny, I checked that door and used the key on it, but it didn't unlock. Came back later and it unlocked. At least I think I checked it before.:confused: Went to the tower and I think found Anger there, used a fire arrow on him, but it says don't do that again LOL. Tried the potion out, but it wants me to do that later. Not the right time.

Can't figure out how to open Upper Hall door on the 4th floor.

I can see I'm being a pest. I really can't go any further, stuck like gum on my shoe.:tsktsk: I know I'm getting close to being done, I think.

Janie

Sagittal on 10/10/2010 at 19:52

The guy at the top of the top tower is the King and not Anger. ;) Best to just leave him there.

There's a door on the balcony in the Singer Hall that doesn't open on Expert IIRC but I think all other doors on the 4th floor should be openable with a key or picks?

Struggling a little to work out where you are exactly but sounds like you've used the record and baton etc to get the right potion and you heard the conversation outside Anger's appartment about the door that needs opening on the third floor (the King being the only person with the key)?

From an earlier post you seem to have tried to pick that door already - which confuses me a little :confused: but my guess is that you have probably just misunderstood the next scene:

As you start to pick the lock all the doors to the Hall close automatically and the King enters. Out of the blue you get transformed into the King (you can see Garrett next to the locked door). As the King you now have the option to open the door for Garrett (with 'your' key) after which you get transformed back to Garrett (this is the right option to choose) OR, as the King, you can blow your whistle to alert the guards - you will be transformed back to Garrett and you will fail the mission one way or another - fun to try but you'll need to reload and choose the right option afterwards :laff: .

You'll know what to do down the stairs!

bob_doe_nz on 10/10/2010 at 23:34

Also, while Garrett is picking the lock, wait ten minutes (real time) as the king. :joke:

Quote Posted by Sagittal

Sagittal on 11/10/2010 at 03:51

Quote Posted by bob_doe_nz

Also, while Garrett is picking the lock, wait ten minutes (real time) as the king. :joke:

Never thought to do that but sounds interesting ;) . EDIT: surprised Garrett lasted so long :laff:

Also: Start to pick the door but immediately move to block the double doors from closing. You can then go out into the castle as the King - bump into Earl Durkheim and maybe one of your guards, see if they might want to follow you :rolleyes: :sly: back into the Lower Hall, and then make your choice as the King to help Garrett or not :devil: But remember to save beforehand. . :joke: :joke:

Zontik on 11/10/2010 at 05:35

1982hitman
1. There IS warning on the top of the screen when you can take or not to take the crown:

Quote:

It's time to make my choice...

...and voice, of course (in Russian, but it's a signal to look for subtitles).
2. Map is almost not hidden, it's in Engineer's room in East Wing, lower floor. Look at the book shelf.
janiejoey
About secret door in wine cellar: check visually outer east wall of the room. When you see texture a bit changed, crouch and push it.
About attic: there is no door, but you can get there with rope arrow (the same way you got to the premiere). As you finished the 'library puzzle', I suppose you don't need to go there anymore.

janiejoey on 11/10/2010 at 07:55

Thank you so much for all your help.

I'm going to block those glass doors and be King for awhile.

I also was confused about the attic. I've been there dealt with the spiders and pressed the lever down. I must have been talking about the door in the upper singing room. I roped arrow up there, jumped over the balcony and went into a room with a locked door. What is that? How do I get inside?

I was confused about the King and Anger. Makes soooooo much more sense now.

Also, I tried to kill Anger in the werewolf form, but he kills me every time. How do I kill him? He rips me to shreds.

Janie

Zontik on 11/10/2010 at 11:52

Quote:

I'm going to block those glass doors and be King for awhile.

Just to let you know - engine bugs are not supported by the author. Do it on your own risk.
As you are warned, I'll address back to Garrett-like player.
This door on the lodge you have probably seen from another side - it's on top of servant's spiral staircase. (There is a ladder lying on the floor nearby.) You can open it on any diff. level except Largo - the Clef key is in one of the small rooms behind the scene.

Quote:

I tried to kill Anger ...

Algorythm:

0 - I suppose you have been transformed first.
1 - run to the pit. Cross railways.
2 - climb any high crate (to be out of Anger's reach) and see the ghost's appearing nearby the pit.
3 - after she (ghost of Elizabeth) explodes the electric box, run there and frob the switch inside.
4 - you can have a short break on the same crate... and to quicksave there. Now the cargo machine is activated and ready to move.
5 - the most tricky part of the game. Run to the cargo machine from the pit side. Let Anger almost catch you. Mantle on the top of the machine and frob its back lever.
Machine starts moving. If Anger is in correct position, he should be 'caught' by machine's forks. See how he'll fall down the pit.
6 - if Anger managed to avoid forks, frob machine's back lever again (machine returns to its starting point) and try #5 again.

janiejoey on 12/10/2010 at 17:43

I'm finished and just loved the ending. And the Fireworks were an awesome touch.

I'm now going back to start all over again. Love this mission!

Thanks everyone who helped me, I was very grateful.

Janie