Thief 1/Gold FM: Project Hammer - Secret Connections (4th Aug 2017) - by DarkThief Darek
Severian_Silk on 13/8/2017 at 01:50
Loved every minute of this atmospheric fan mission :) . I think I got 2 out of 3 secret objectives, so I'll definitely get back to it tonight. Can't wait for the new "Hand of Glory"!
Maxrebo6 on 14/8/2017 at 04:01
I just completed the mission and it was awesome.This mission is a straight up classic Thief Gold or Thief Gold Style FM and I love it.I love Thief 2 but the more time goes on the more I favor Thief Gold's Atmosphere whether its an actual Thief Gold FM or Thief 2 with heavy inspiration from Thief Gold.
I got all the optional objectives,one I found on my own and I had found 4 out of 5 of the bones before I had to check the thread for hints,I am missing some loot though.
Here we're my final totals
Gold:1664
Gems:195
Goods:597
Total 2456 out of 2506
What could I be missing any hints?
When I saw that this released I went straight into doing this.Because I have been trying to do most if not all Thief Fan Missions and I was all caught up on Thief Gold and had been doing Thief 2 until I took a break for while.But this and other missions like really make me want to go back and replay some of my favorite Thief DP\Gold FM's and go for full loot with the help of the wonderful Loot list and Walkthrough Compilation.Though I will continue with my play through of Thief 2 FM's as well.
DarkThief Darek on 14/8/2017 at 16:53
Thanks Severian_Silk and Maxrebo6 for the great feedback. :)
What I really like about the T1/TG atmosphere is the mystic and super natural feeling. You never know what could happen. That gives a lot of room to create a mystic and immersive story like for this small FM.
Although I'm biased (nostalgia) about the original textures I think the gritty texture style is more suited for Thief. In moderns FMs you often get clean looking high res textures, which doesn't seem right sometimes.
For the missing loot:
You are missing exactly 50 loot. My guess is a well hidden loot piece in Lord Gregors working/relaxing room, where you find the small key for the chapels lockbox.
A more precise hint: A gold candlestick is hidden behind some crates.
Maxrebo6 on 14/8/2017 at 20:21
Do you mean the little loft in the his reading room with the financial ledger,Stained Glass window of the master builder and the painting of the builder.If so then I got that candlestick already.I will probably see if I can find what it is using TTLL but I gotta remember out how to use it to find unfound loot again.
Edited:My bad I meant with Dromed.
Edited:Found what I was missing
The Three Gold Coinstacks on top of the closet in Sophia's Room
I took me a while mostly because I actually had setup proper dromed for Thief Gold,I has assumed it was already done,because the only times I had to use it to find loot was for Thief 2 FM's and that was automatically setup via tafferpatcher.Where as Thief Gold's New Dark Dromed requires a manual install. Really looking foward to the remade Hand of Glory.
DarkThief Darek on 14/8/2017 at 23:02
Oh ... right. I changed many loot values from the original loot properties and noted the changes down.
I overlooked the three cold coinstacks which together adds up to 50. :rolleyes:
Anyway, glad you found an easy way to find the missing loot. ^^
I wish Hand Of Glory is already remade, but the FM is a rather big one and it doesn't help that ~50% will be build from scratch again. But the new look will be worth it. The hammerite church now looks like an actual church for example. :D
Newdark is awesome, because you aren't limited to a certain complexity in your scenery. I think I reach over 2000 polys at some places. That was not possible in the year Hand Of Glorys was made.
Maxrebo6 on 15/8/2017 at 21:16
Yes I am glad I found that to,it found in a rather obscure and deeply buried thread a while back if I recall correctly.What you do is load up a FM in dromed then load your most recent save for that mission.You can do the generate report with all then find object and press F8 to warp directly to it.But you can also Highlight loot objects then enable hightlight only and it outline in a wire frame box every piece of unclaimed loot remaining on the map then you click on those objects then warp to it with F8.Then Boom now you now where the missing loot is and best part is it only show's what your missing in that save file as opposed to every piece of loot in the mission whether you got it or not.
Its kind of like the Original Thief version of the find loot console command in The Dark Mod,not sure if the command is still a a thing but it used to be.
Leozero on 11/10/2017 at 00:48
I was a fan of the original project hammer, I just found out about this and dug around some old files, I've replayed your original and will now play the current one you just created, I'm glad our community has got great people like you who are able to construct such amazing and sophisticated levels.
DarkThief Darek on 11/10/2017 at 16:27
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Thank you very much, very interesting!
Tell me please, this rope arrow guard forgot, or for find a secret place?
This rope arrow is mainly to get into
the playable area again (leave the city streets you are not supposed to be in). But I won't deny it can be used for other puposes in this area as well. :sly:@Leozero:
Thanks for your kind words! :)
In the past Project Hammer started out as a small mini level, but I saw much more potential in it nowadays, therefore I reworked it and added tons of stuff to discover. I hope you will like the new version as well.
Remeber that now their are 3 secret objectives to find. In T1/TG you sadly can't easily place a secret counter in the statistics like "Found secret - 0/3". ^^'
downwinder on 11/10/2017 at 22:44
i just replayed this mission and for some reason the small key make a noise when i use on the lock on rafters but the door does not open
otherwise mission worked fine
