Thief 1/2 & SShock 2: DDFix and Enhanced Resolution Patch - discussion - by bikerdude
bikerdude on 11/4/2008 at 16:23
Quote Posted by Simplex
Do you and Timeslip both use 169.21 drivers?And what exactly models of 8800 you have? GTX, GTS, Ultra, GT?
I have an EVGA 8800Ultra SuperClocked w/169.44 & 174.40beta driver
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I'll try reinstalling the codecs once again. Is there even a possibility to reencode the videos and use a modern codec to play them, or would that require work beyond DDfix?
Hi Its simplier to install the appropriate codec pack, I suggest the (
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_lite_codec_pack.htm) klite codec pack. Re-coding all the videos in a different codec is not going to work as thief will be expecting it in indeo format, ddfix not withstanding.
biker
poroshin on 11/4/2008 at 16:26
I have the newest K-Lite installed actually. But I also installed the standalone Indeo package. I will try also the package off Disc Two of Thief Gold. I'll give up then.
As for reencoding, I suppose we'd need the source code to be able to change the codec Thief expects?
Timeslip on 11/4/2008 at 16:39
Quote Posted by Hiatus
just re-looked at ddfix.ini from 1.1.1 to see what's missing in 1.2/1.3 compared to that. Notably, AA setting is missing from .ini currently. AFAIR you mentioned that DX6 AA is currently broken in Nvidia drivers (wasn't aware that AA was DX version related, btw :confused:) but could you consider re-adding this option at least for ATI users for now (maybe NV will fix it as well one day so it'll be universal)? That would be nice to be able to set it permanently in .ini, and don't have to mess (or even install) control panel apps, create profiles etc.
AA in DX 6 is completely different to DX8 and 9. (Not sure what it's like in 7 - I've never looked.) There's no 2x, 4x, 8x mode or whatever, it's either on or off. Combined with the locking problem, and the way I can't test it to make sure it's working, I don't really want to add it, because graphics driver support is better.
Quote Posted by Hiatus
(In closing: I wonder if/when we might need another ddfix (metaphorically) to fix ddfixed Thief ;).)
If anyone dares break thief again, I'm going to write a software rasterizer for it. We'd never have to worry about graphics drivers again. :)
Actually, I did already make a half hearted attempt at writing a software renderer for thief. It was running at about 5 fps on my E6600 before I'd even started on texture support, so we've got another couple of processor generations to go yet before it's feasable.
bikerdude on 11/4/2008 at 16:44
Quote Posted by poroshin
I have the newest K-Lite installed actually. But I also installed the standalone Indeo package. I will try also the package off Disc Two of Thief Gold. I'll give up then.
Remove all codecs your currently have installed and just install the k-lite pack, also make sure you tick the option for the indeo codecs (I forgot to mention that)
Quote Posted by poroshin
As for reencoding, I suppose we'd need the source code to be able to change the codec Thief expects?
No Effence dude, but it would be a wast of time.
biker
qolelis on 11/4/2008 at 19:40
Quote Posted by Timeslip
Just bringing back windowed mode
Yay, that makes me a happy puppy :) I'll wait for version 1.4 then.
Quote Posted by Timeslip
It changes the screen resolution back, but any windows you had open and maximized sometimes don't get resized to fit the screen, and stay the same size that thief was running at instead.
This is what happens to me when going into game mode from within DromEd and back again to edit mode (using ddfix 1.3.9b). I run my desktop in 1600x1200, but DromEd can only go as high as 1280x1024 and the windows I have open behaves exactly as Timeslip described.
Side notes (I thought I could at least mention them - for what it's worth):
* While waiting for 1.4 I use two versions of ddfixed DromEds, one with ddfix 1.1 for the windowed mode (no fog, but it's enough for doing especially brushwork) and one with ddfix 1.3.9b for checking out fog.
* The first time I patched DromEd with ddfix 1.3.9b I changed both occurences of "ddraw.dll". When I started DromEd I was told that I didn't have DirectX 7 or higher installed (even though I do have DirectX 9.0b installed) and DromEd didn't start. Then I replaced only the first occurrence and this time DromEd worked as intended. I later tested replacing only the second occurrence and this gave me the message about needing to install DirectX 7 or higher.
doninss on 12/4/2008 at 02:08
I decided to install T2 on the grand-kids computer hoping they might be drawn in the way I was. (You can lead a horse to water...) Installed fine, but refused to go past the menu. I tried the usual (single core, codecs, safe_texture...), but no dice. <_< I had almost given up when I happened upon ddfix.
Again, thanks.
poroshin on 12/4/2008 at 22:10
Quote Posted by Bikerdude
Remove all codecs your currently have installed and just install the k-lite pack, also make sure you tick the option for the indeo codecs (I forgot to mention that)
I tried that twice and no go. Finally solved my problem by uninstalling K-Lite and installing the codec off the Thief Gold CD. Now DDfixed Thief runs perfectly! :thumb: I suppose when reinstalling K-Lite I'll need to make sure to check OFF anything Indeo.
bikerdude on 13/4/2008 at 18:30
Quote Posted by Simplex
Biker, are you able to set 1400x1050 res with pillarboxing using the drivers, not the monitor settings?
Hi Simplex
There are option in the nvidia control panel to adjust the scaling..
Inline Image:
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7044/aspectratiorz1.jpgbiker
Simplex on 13/4/2008 at 18:33
Yeah, I was aware of those options but the picture was stretched even if I set the scaling to "aspect ratio" - that was on WHQL 169.21 drivers. When I installed latest beta (174 something) the problem dissapeared. I am now able to enjoy thief in 1400x1050 with 1:1 pixel mapping :) Thanks a lot for making me realise I can use this resolution :)
poroshin on 13/4/2008 at 19:00
I also have a 20-inch widescreen monitor and a native resolution of 1680x1050. I have an nVidia 8800 GTX card, but I have the 169.25 drivers. I see on Guru3D there are 174.85 drivers already. Hopefully I'll also be able to run Thief in a higher resolution, because I too set the aspect ration like in that screenshot and set the 1400x1050 resolution manually in the ini files but the game was stretched...
Nope, just installed the new driver, set the scaling and no, the menu is still stretched, and trying to start a level cause the game to crash.
