Thief 1/2 & SShock 2: DDFix and Enhanced Resolution Patch - discussion

bikerdude on 11/4/2008 at 09:06

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1.3.10 is worse that 1.3.9? It should have been the same speed as 1.2 as long as you weren't using hi-res textures. Is it just because of the higher resolution you were using? Does Lowering the resolution does help
Do you get stuttering without ddfix?

I tested 1.2.5/1.3.9b/1.3.10@1280*1024 with "T2Ext=0" and 1.2.5 was the smoothest.(Im running forceware 169.44) I will have to roll back to Forceware 163.75 to test vanilla Thief2, which I will do this evening. Would you like me to do the above test under the earlier (163.75)driver...?

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I'll reg at that forum later today and test this FM for stuttering with various versions of ddfix. Is the place (hall etc) where you get it far along the mission or near the start (if the former, a link to savegame from that place via PM would be nice).

I only suggested TimeSlip join as its a closed testing forum, but if you ask DrK nicely as its his FM. And its at the begining where you stand in a big hall.

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Bikerdude and others: which specific (already released) FM(s) (huge, H/W demanding) would you recommend to Timeslip for stress/perf. tests?

I imagine Lord Alans Factory whould be as big and complex as the FM Im beta testing atm. I will download L.A.F. this evening and test. Also any of Sliptips missions as they have large areas with updated textures, or the latest seven sisters FM.

biker

Simplex on 11/4/2008 at 10:27

I am playing 7 sisters using latest DDFix, Thief Enhancement Pack, and textures from here: (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119451)

So far no stuttering on 1280x1024 (although I played without AA).

BTW. Biker, could you please satisfy my curiosity as to 1400x1050 resolution? :)

bikerdude on 11/4/2008 at 11:15

Quote Posted by Simplex

BTW. Biker, could you please satisfy my curiosity as to 1400x1050 resolution? :)

do you mean the, 1400*1050 or 1440*1050 question..? The resolution used by DDfix is 1400*1050. 1440*1050 is used by some monitors though.

biker

gothic251 on 11/4/2008 at 11:34

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Width goes at offset 006B156C and height at 006B156E. (2 bytes each)

Umm, I don't seem to find either one of those locations in my exe, even in a completely original, unmodified exe.

Simplex on 11/4/2008 at 12:09

Quote Posted by Bikerdude

do you mean the, 1400*1050 or 1440*1050 question..? The resolution used by DDfix is 1400*1050. 1440*1050 is used by some monitors though.

I mean the resolution you use:

Quote Posted by "bikerdude"

With everything set to default in the ini and the res set to 1400*1050, AA@4x/overide, Anisio@8x in nV Cp: when walking into a large hall I get lag/stutter

I am curious what kind of monitor you have that you use this resolution?

poroshin on 11/4/2008 at 12:46

Anyone have any ideas as to my videos problem? Thief looks and plays excellent otherwise, but without the videos you can understand it's not the same.

Simplex on 11/4/2008 at 12:51

The solution (if not given already) is to install indeo video codecs (iv5_play.exe i think) and to register lgvid.ax using regsrv32. All this can be found in the (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75031#movies) technical FAQ. If this does not work for you, then simply watch the avi files in any video player, outside thief. It's better than not seeing them at all.

Anyway, this is not a proper thread to write about your videos issue, this is the thread for DDfix.

bikerdude on 11/4/2008 at 12:55

Quote Posted by Simplex

I am curious what kind of monitor you have that you use this resolution?

I have a 20" NEC GX2pro which does 1680*1050, but scales lower resolutions very well. Such as 1400*1050. Im hoping TS sorts true widescreen mode so I can run thief at my monitors native res of 1680*1050.

biker

Simplex on 11/4/2008 at 13:02

Biker, I guess that when you are using 1400x1050, the image is pillarboxed (black stripes on the edges) to maintain aspect ratio - how do you achieve this? Is the aspect ratio maintained by the NEC monitor, or by video card?

I am asking because I also wanted to run thief (and other games that do not support widescreen) in the highest possible resolution for my monior (20'' LG, also 1680x1050). I added custom resolution in the nVidia control panel, but when I switch to it, the image is stretched on the whole space (no pillarboxing) so it is useless.

Perhaps if I learn how you achieved properly scaled 1400x1050 resolution on your screen, I will be able to do the same - especially that we both have 8x00 series graphics card.

Simplex

Timeslip on 11/4/2008 at 13:12

Quote Posted by gothic251

Umm, I don't seem to find either one of those locations in my exe, even in a completely original, unmodified exe.

Those addresses are in process space, not file space. You need to translate back. I'll look them up later if you don't know how.

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Perhaps if I learn how you achieved properly scaled 1400x1050 resolution on your screen, I will be able to do the same - especially that we both have 8x00 series graphics card.

I can do it on mine from the 'change flat panel scaling' page in the control panel. There are options for using the monitor to scale, using the video card to scale, using the video card to scale while keeping the aspect ratio fixed, (i.e. adding in the black borders, the option you want,) and not scaling at all. (displays the image as a box in the center of the monitor.)

I assume those options only work if your monitor has some way of telling the graphics card that it is a flatpanel and what its native resolution is.