Fallen+Keeper on 3/6/2015 at 10:43
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Since I've already beat the game, but haven't read the books, spoiler me up some suppositions here. What do the books hint towards happening?
The books do not hint at what will happen in games storywise, mind you, but provide you with information to let you enjoy the story a little differently. Some reviewers that have not played W1 and W2 said that they were completely taken by surprise when they found out that the Wild Hunt was not the real enemy, but the White Frost was. I mean, it's not that a stretch they claimed to be if you had played previous games with a modicum of interest for the lore. Plus, if you had read the books it will also put a smile on your face, because, in my opinion, it's all very well weaved in. Simply the story doesn't use "newly discovered devices or superweapons, or find out new supervillains", like Mass Effect 3 did. It just puts the established lore to good use, without inventing new "mcguffins" for the sake of the plot.
MorbusG on 3/6/2015 at 11:15
Second playthrough for me now. First time around I went for attack and sign abilities, but this time I went for brewing and mutations. Man, they're really awesome and feel more "Witchery" to me. With the synergy ability and a greater green mutagen in the slot, you get +900 vitality. Decoction effects last for days.
faetal on 3/6/2015 at 15:07
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
Good to know I am not the slowest person on the planet. Someone lagging behind me ! :)
Then it should make you feel great that the first thing I am going to do towards my Witcher 3 completion will be to finally complete the first game. I haven't even left Vizima yet.
Tony_Tarantula on 3/6/2015 at 21:36
Quote Posted by Malf
Aaaand I'm done. What the hell am I supposed to do now?!
Brilliant game, and significantly raises the bar for RPGs following it. Sure, it got a little easy at the end, and I think the levelling curve is severely broken, particularly after certain events, but overall, a jolly good romp.
Not anywhere near as far into it...but yeah, I'm already having the same feelings. I can't think of any game I've played recently that comes close(although I hear BloodBorne is that good).
For Fallen Keeper's comments:
The white Frost was implied to be the real problem in both some mentions from the book's (repeated references to Ithlinne's prophecy), but also in the first game. What's not clear from earlier books is whether the White Frost happens on its own due to solar changes as will eventually happen to Earth or whether the Wild Hunt is the harbinger of the White Frost. After all in your first encounter with him the Wild Hunt uses the White Frost as a weapon against Geralt and KeiraAlso:
Why do I get the feeling that Alvin/The Grand Master knew about everything that was going to happen in the Witcher 3? Since I'm still relatively into the game at level 12 I'm curious to see how what he saw as the inevitable end of the world is going to be averted. It would require altering fate itself Morbus:
How well does investing in the potions tree actually work? I'd like to buff up that aspect of my build but I'm worried about it being competitive in the long run. In particular is there anything in the first tier that does not suck ass?
I'm also leaning a bit towards signs. Investing in signs seems like it's a good way to go for players who are more tactical, whereas combat favors twitchy players and potions seem to favor players who , for lack of a better term, favor "detective" style play and read every bestiary entry to the letter before starting a fight.
One tip I found out the hard way is that unlike the first two games, it pays to invest a few points to defend yourself from ranged attacks. Haven't tried the Yrden ability that destroys projectiles but even a single point in arrow deflection makes things much easier when you're fighting bandits.
Malf on 3/6/2015 at 21:44
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
One tip I found out the hard way is that unlike the first two games, it pays to invest a few points to defend yourself from ranged attacks. Haven't tried the Yrden ability that destroys projectiles but even a single point in arrow deflection makes things much easier when you're fighting bandits.
Investing a couple more points and being able to return to sender is joyously cool, if a little broken.
A reflected arrow is generally a one-shot kill. But the game's aggro system is a a bit wonky, and archers can target you a LONG time before the combat system allows you to block. Personally, I think that as long as you've got your sword drawn, you should be in combat mode. That would create a lot stronger gameplay distinction and prevent stuff like that mentioned above happening.
Fallen+Keeper on 3/6/2015 at 21:50
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
Not anywhere near as far into it...but yeah, I'm already having the same feelings. I can't think of any game I've played recently that comes close(although I hear BloodBorne is that good).
For Fallen Keeper's comments:
The white Frost was implied to be the real problem in both some mentions from the book's (repeated references to Ithlinne's prophecy), but also in the first game. What's not clear from earlier books is whether the White Frost happens on its own due to solar changes as will eventually happen to Earth or whether the Wild Hunt is the harbinger of the White Frost. After all in your first encounter with him the Wild Hunt uses the White Frost as a weapon against Geralt and KeiraEhm... yeah?... Sorry, dunno if you're attempting to correct me by repeating what I stated or you're just chiming in. :)
MorbusG on 3/6/2015 at 22:08
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
How well does investing in the potions tree actually work? I'd like to buff up that aspect of my build but I'm worried about it being competitive in the long run. In particular is there anything in the first tier that does not suck ass?
I can't really compare since the first time through I used the default difficulty level, and now I have it at the lowest. But every ability on the green tree raises potions duration. I haven't taken any of the oils or trials of the grasses, so can't comment on those, but I suspect that on higher difficulty levels the potion abilities are really crucial (because you can't heal by meditating).
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
Haven't tried the Yrden ability that destroys projectiles
I had that on the first playthrough, and I think it didn't work at all. Arrows hit me while I was inside the trap.
Oh, and I would like to give a tip for people who haven't yet gone to Novigrad:
Try to postpone the mission Count Reuven's Treasure for as long as possible! Even if you already started it, just don't continue doing it.
The reason is
that after you finish it, you can't ask Triss to uncompress the different figurines you find around the world.
Renzatic on 3/6/2015 at 23:01
Quote Posted by MorbusG
...but I suspect that on higher difficulty levels the potion abilities are really crucial (because you can't heal by meditating).
That, or a fuckton of wolf livers.
As for the ending, and how it relates to the books,
the way I took it, the Wild Hunt weren't responsible for the White Frost (and what looks like a 2nd conjunction of the spheres occurring simultaneously), but their arrival did happen to coincide with its coming. In the end, they and Geralt both are ultimately side characters in Ciri's more epic tale, which directly relates to the battle with the White Frost, and the beings who may be behind it
Fallen+Keeper on 3/6/2015 at 23:28
Quote Posted by Renzatic
That, or a fuckton of wolf livers.
As for the ending, and how it relates to the books,
the way I took it, the Wild Hunt weren't responsible for the White Frost (and what looks like a 2nd conjunction of the spheres occurring simultaneously), but their arrival did happen to coincide with its coming. In the end, they and Geralt both are ultimately side characters in Ciri's more epic tale, which directly relates to the battle with the White Frost, and the beings who may be behind it Yeap, the White Frost is in the books, it is mentioned in W1 and W2 through the Ithlinne prophecy, that's why using it as one of the main plot devices sounds only natural, even if some reviewers who based their knowledge and expectations on the third game alone found themselves "confused" (can't remember what review was it, frankly). Which isn't bad per se, but it's certainly not well informed. Again, what I appreciated is the fact that the Witcher 3 writers used a part of the existing lore, without taking a new concept out of their asses, à la ME3, for example.
Briareos H on 4/6/2015 at 00:03
Great, great game. Feels like CDPRed have been evolving parallel to --but slightly distant from-- the modern gaming industry, reusing most of its language while moving other areas forward differently from anyone else. There's a lot of broken stuff in TW3 but not much where it really matters, it's one of those rare games that make me feel all warm inside and kind of proud I still love and follow video games.
I'll go through it again, still have some quests to do and other paths to take. Probably next year.
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