Ko0K on 26/9/2008 at 04:12
Quote Posted by Pyrian
Ironically, as Bush demands more power, this time the Republicans are reluctant to give it to the presidency - presumably because they think Obama is going to win. :D It's all just power plays...
Many Republicans are up for reelection this year, and are hellbent on distancing themselves from Bush to save their necks. They have a good reason to worry, too. Obama's roughly 60:40 odds to win in November in the future prediction markets pales in comparison to the 90:10 odds in favor of the Democrats capturing the Congress. Reacting to the news that about a third of the citizens are furious about the bailout, the Republicans are circulating an alternative they cooked up at the last minute, which is what derailed Bush/Paulson's bailout plan.
This is truly a sad sight. Gone are the calm and steady ways of the old GOP, as its new identity seems to be all about scratching wherever it itches. The Right has a huge image problem right now that they may not recover from for a while.
Fafhrd on 26/9/2008 at 05:11
Which has me a bit scared, because all my money is in a WaMu checking account. (not counting the 96 dollars in loose change). Though it sounds like the buyout is going seamlessly and I don't have too much to worry about.
Thief13x on 26/9/2008 at 05:13
Quote Posted by Ko0K
the Republicans are circulating an alternative they cooked up at the last minute, which is what derailed Bush/Paulson's bailout plan.
Quote Posted by Ko0K
Gone are the calm and steady ways of the old GOP, as its new identity seems to be all about scratching wherever it itches
Ah yes, wouldn't it be nice if the GOP would just say fuckit and let the chips fall?
I'm not supporting or attacking the bailout, I don't even know where I stand, as I would not like to see the government encourage bad behavior but at the same time, would like to be able to get a college loan next semester.
The bottom line is it's a fucky situation and just because there's a little discord about how to survive it doesn't mean the GOP's 'scratching everythin that itches'.
Undead Gamer on 26/9/2008 at 05:28
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
Which has me a bit scared, because
all my money is in a WaMu checking account. (not counting the 96 dollars in loose change). Though it sounds like the buyout is going seamlessly and I don't have too much to worry about.
These days you can't trust anyone with your money :sly:
heywood on 26/9/2008 at 05:28
Quote Posted by Ko0K
Many Republicans are up for reelection this year, and are hellbent on distancing themselves from Bush to save their necks. They have a good reason to worry, too. Obama's roughly 60:40 odds to win in November in the future prediction markets pales in comparison to the 90:10 odds in favor of the Democrats capturing the Congress. Reacting to the news that about a third of the citizens are furious about the bailout, the Republicans are circulating an alternative they cooked up at the last minute, which is what derailed Bush/Paulson's bailout plan.
This is truly a sad sight. Gone are the calm and steady ways of the old GOP, as its new identity seems to be all about scratching wherever it itches. The Right has a huge image problem right now that they may not recover from for a while.
So I take it you're in favor of transferring up to a trillion dollars of wealth up the income ladder, as long as there's a way to blame the Republicans for it?
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
Which has me a bit scared, because
all my money is in a WaMu checking account. (not counting the 96 dollars in loose change). Though it sounds like the buyout is going seamlessly and I don't have too much to worry about.
Why? The FDIC was created so that people in your shoes wouldn't get scared and rush to pull your money out.
Ko0K on 26/9/2008 at 05:46
Quote Posted by heywood
So I take it you're in favor of transferring up to a trillion dollars of wealth up the income ladder, as long as there's a way to blame the Republicans for it?
I made no mention of what I am in favor of, so however you "take it" is a fantasy you're more than welcome to entertain. In any case, you running straight for 'Democrats giving Bush a blank check' isn't convincing anyone your supposedly "independent" position.
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It's like 2003 all over. Bush says if you don't give me the authorization to do what I want, we're fucked. The spineless Congress caves.
Did you know that the Republicans were in firm control of the Congress back in 2003? Funny how you went from singling out the Democrats to "spineless Congress" all in one post. Why not just admit that you're a wingnut and proud of it? I can admit that I'm a damn liberal and a damn proud one at that, too.
Ko0K on 26/9/2008 at 10:30
Now that I breathed out some fire...
To be perfectly honest, I must admit they wouldn't have slapped it together for the sole purpose of putting some distance between Bush and themselves. In fact, it's only their job to explore all possibilities, discuss the pros and cons, and come to an agreement that would serve the best interest of the nation.
The question is this, though. Would they have put themselves to work and worked together before they found themselves under duress? This is precisely what I mean by the image problem the Republicans are suffering. These days, they appear to do what they do out of desperation, regardless as to their true motives.