Turtle on 5/9/2008 at 00:37
You know, it sounds like she named her kids after the places they were conceived.
At the track.
In trig class.
Under a willow tree.
In the back of a Piper Cub.
Bristol, Tennessee.
It's a stretch, but it bugs me that she can't come up with decent names for more than 20-40% of her children.
Still, I'd bang her like a car door.
Ghostly Apparition on 5/9/2008 at 04:03
Quote Posted by Turtle
Still, I'd bang her like a car door.
Speaking of Palin, If the republicans are going to nominate a Beauty Queen as
VP, shouldn't they rethink their "drill here drill now" slogan? ..Just sayin.:laff:
Thief13x on 5/9/2008 at 04:11
If I had a dollar for every time I've heard that phrase made fun of I might actually be able to afford Hillary's rate
BEAR on 5/9/2008 at 04:18
Quote Posted by Turtle
Still, I'd bang her like a car door.
Considering that the "have a beer with" quality was so successful in male presidents, I imagine the "would bang like a car door" is a reasonable female counterpart (in terms of men, I doubt women see it the same way with either gender). Its not as if the bar has been set too high.
D'Juhn Keep on 5/9/2008 at 08:31
Quote Posted by theBlackman
If that is a sample of your Geophysical knowledge, your education is sorely lacking.
Last I heard, NORTH AMERICA is a continent that contains no vestiges of Europe.
Canada is close to the United States. Does that make Canada part of the United States?
If the rest of your discourse shows as little "thought" you should remove yourself from this discussion. You are obviously suffering a great handicap on the intellectual level.
What would we do for laughs without a straight man. Thanks tbm :)
jay pettitt on 5/9/2008 at 12:10
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9.20pm: He's got a green screen behind him again! That's a disastrous choice. He accepts the nomination and careens straight in to some Bush love. "I'm grateful to the President for leading us in those dark days following the worst attack on American soil in our history, and keeping us safe from another attack many thought was inevitable." He thanks his wife, his mother, Americans, everyone.
"Finally, a word to Senator Obama and his supporters. We'll go at it over the next two months. That's the nature of these contests, and there are big differences between us. But you have my respect and admiration." Not Sarah Palin's, though. She thinks you are ridiculous, Obama, and she will mock you for having been a community organiser, and throw moose-antlers in your way to trip you up.
9.24pm: "I wouldn't be an American worthy of the name if I didn't honor Senator Obama and his supporters for their achievement. But let there be no doubt, my friends, we're going to win this election." Oh, all right, that's the bipartisanship over with.
9.26pm: A serious commotion, as two Code Pink-looking protestors reveal themselves, flash peace signs, and get dragged out by security, thereby amping the crowd up by about 100%. They're almost as loud as they were for Palin yesterday now. Well done Code Pink! Or Republican operatives in disguise, if that's what you really are.
McCain chuckles in his trademark sinister fashion and picks up the thread again, which is about how he understands that times are tough. He promises to "stand on your side", which sounds painful.
9.28pm: Praising Palin. "She's helped run a small business, worked with her hands and nose..." He ACTUALLY PAUSES HERE. Her nose? Oh, I see: "...Worked with her hands and knows what it's like to worry about mortgage payments and health care and the cost of gasoline and groceries." I seriously thought he was going to give us an Eskimo joke then.
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I heartily recommend Burkeman to anyone slightly queasy over the Republican love in.
I have to say I Liked listening to McCain's speech although mostly only for the aesthetics of it (unfortunate green lawn backdrop aside). McCain was calm and assured in his delivery (if underpowered at times), he exudes a warmth and openness that
is attractive and I think will appeal to a lot of people. Sure, it had all the zest and zeal of a pleasant retirement speech, and he's getting some flak for that, but I reckon moderates will be left in little doubt that McCain is one of the good guys. I like him too - elsewhere (ie in the dim and distant past) he described conservative christian leaders as agents of intolerance, which would earn anyone a nod from me, that they also happen to be the hand that feeds him gets him two. I digress - I'm no judge but I reckon his speech a success and I wouldn't be surprised to see the polls shift accordingly.
However, if McCain's speech is any indicator of where Republicans are going to be at in the next few months I don't think the Democrats need to worry unduly. You have to remember that McCain spoke in front of what will probably be the easiest crowed he'll ever have and they dutifuly whooped and cheered and did chanting after every full stop (and sometimes between them) like an assembled mass of clockwork automatons. While the style was pleasant and affable, McCain ain't any where near in the same league as Barrack Obama when it comes to oratory. Palin got some credit after her speech but in all honesty I found her delivery stilted and truth be told, quite a bit bitchy.
In terms of content McCain's address was a mess. It may have gone on for 50 minutes but there was very little substance and yes ok, the promise of delivering all things to all people all of the time was appealing but even cursory examination reveals that whatever loose associations he made to policy or direction were all over the place.
You can't promise a great strategic vision for America's future energy plan and explain that by your inspired leadership the governments role is going to be to get out the way so that it just sort of happens by itself. You can't promise to stand up to Oil Giants by letting them drill baby drill. You can't promise to protect the environment by embracing clean coal (clean coal is dirty coal with lower sulphur emissions something you've had since the 1990 clean air act, not CCS technology which has taken until 2008 to enter the first vestiges of a feasability study and by all accounts won't be deployable for 20-30 years if at all, but you all ready know that stuff) or by eschewing the practice of scrapping legislation designed to protect health and the environment by misusing biased methods of cost benefit analysis. You can't promise to name and shame bad spending plans while harking back to Reaganomics whom introduced behind doors assesment of spending plans (It took until the Clinton administration to introduce transparency at the OIRA & OMB and it's only recently become clear just how much of a systematically biased sham it's methods and systems have been). You can't promise cheaper car journeys and champion electric cars (Gas is still very very cheap and has an established infrastructure). You can't promise to recover a failing economy using methods that the last two times round have caused a recession (that one's like Elliot Carver releasing buggy software so you're forced to upgrade for years). You can't chastise Russia for invading Georgia over oil and not look a teensy-weensy bit embarrassed. And that's just the stuff I can recall off the top of my head without sitting down and giving it a good think and it's not like I know anything about America or Politics. Oh, and even I was right about a troop push.
You can't have your cake
and eat it.
All this folksy appeal - we're gonna sort out Washington, tell 'em a few home truths and do the right thing. Either they're telling you all porkies or they'll get eaten alive - it just don't work that way.
heywood on 5/9/2008 at 14:27
I thought McCain's speech was surprisingly good, the best I've seen him do in a setting like that. His message was all about convincing people that the old McCain is back. It may be too late for that now, but I'm sure some independents that may have been turned away by Palin might give him a second chance.
Listening to all the commentary after the speech, I was surprised at the unanimous praise for Palin's speech and lukewarm reception for McCain's speech. I thought Palin's speech was nothing special. Maybe people just expected her to fall flat on her face or something.
Quote Posted by jay pettitt
You can't have your cake and eat it.
All this folksy appeal - we're gonna sort out Washington, tell 'em a few home truths and do the right thing. Either they're telling you all porkies or they'll get eaten alive - it just don't work that way.
Unfortunately, you can't level with the American people and get elected. The media here expects grandiose speeches in which the candidates promise to walk on water, and they'll go after you if you don't promise enough. That's why I was saying earlier in the thread that these speeches don't tell us much about how the candidates will govern. It's just theater.
paloalto90 on 5/9/2008 at 18:52
Thats right theater and symbolism just to gin up the party unless the candidate hasn't been sorted out yet.
Your setting a tone not a complicated melody and if your a delegate to either parties convention and you don't look like a raving automaton your not doing your job.
