D'Juhn Keep on 2/9/2008 at 12:19
While I really hope Obama will be a good president (I hope you didn't put too much on, Slyfox) I can't help but be reminded of Tony Blair. An excellent orator, from a marriage of 2 lawyers, the public is charmed but eventually disillusioned.
And I can't wait until "Levi" does a runner from Bristol Palin
jay pettitt on 2/9/2008 at 13:13
If I was Levi I'd be thinking... "What's this worth?"
Also there's gotta be a joke about Palin's gun lobby credentials and shotgun weddings...
BEAR on 2/9/2008 at 14:22
Hahahahahahaha.
Part of me wants Palin to be the VP nominee and part of me wants to see them have to retract it after "thoroughly vetting" her.
I would feel sorry for them if they weren't guaranteed 40% of the vote just for being republicans, no matter how much they fuck up.
Starrfall on 2/9/2008 at 14:38
Quote Posted by heretic
So she was for the bridge, before she was against it....
Are we once again shocked and appalled by a politician's tendency to be a two-faced opportunist?
...and her daughter got knocked up too oh lawd!
Nope, we're amused because she was supposed to have been chosen because she would shore up the maverick cred and the biggest thing she can point to that shows she's a maverick is basically a pack of lies.
(Unless you consider elk hunting to be maverickish, I don't because even here in hippie-land I know a ton of hunters.)
While the "pregnant unmarried teen daughter" thing is also funny because it has potential to force the abstinance only people to acknowledge the consequences of their views, I feel bad for the girl. Obviously you should be aware of the consequences or your actions (ie: babies) but no one expects that they'll have sex, get pregnant, and then be the talk of the ENTIRE DAMN COUNTRY because your mother got a surprise job offer. I posted the NYT article because it was the best one I could find that talked about some of the other stuff too. (Like the "membership in a separatist political party" thing)
SD on 2/9/2008 at 15:49
The Palin Show just gets funnier and funnier:
Quote:
Palin Once Member of Fringe Party Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) "was once a member of their party, which since the 1970s has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States," reports ABC News.
The AIP platform states that the purpose of the party is to "seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution ... To prohibit all bureaucratic regulations and judicial rulings purporting to have the effect of law, except that which shall be approved by the elected legislature ... To support the privatization of government services ..."
That sound is the wheels falling off the John McCain bandwagon.
Kalit on 2/9/2008 at 16:05
I wish that we would have had someone decent running for republican or democrat. Or that 3rd party candidates had a chance in hell (thank you media).
BEAR on 2/9/2008 at 16:38
God almighty, I'm so tired of having to respond to this thread. What in the hell are you talking about? That is just the most ignorant sounding, knee-jerk generic "lol politics" reply. Do you expect a better democratic candidate ever? Honestly?
I'll agree that McCain is not looking too good these days but he was much better back in the 2000 election and look at how that worked out. At some point the republicans have to accept responsibility for their own shitty candidates because as much as I disagree with McCain's policies now, they tend to pick the worst of the worst (though we did pick Kerry).
heywood on 2/9/2008 at 17:32
Quote Posted by Kalit
I wish that we would have had someone decent running for republican or democrat. Or that 3rd party candidates had a chance in hell (thank you media).
I don't think you can blame the media entirely for the lack of popular support for 3rd party candidates. The bigger problem is the candidates themselves, who are generally either reactionaries, radicals, or nut cases without a broad appeal. I had to look back to 1980 to find a 3rd party candidate that I could vote for.
That said, I really *wish* there were a libertarian leaning progressive/reform candidate this time to siphon votes from the Republicans. The party is broken and needs a kick in the ass. I hoped that McCain would have the guts to stir things up, but instead he pulled a Mitt Romney and started kissing the ass of religious zealots.
Quote Posted by BEAR
God almighty, I'm so tired of having to respond to this thread. What in the hell are you talking about? That is just the most ignorant sounding, knee-jerk generic "lol politics" reply. Do you expect a better democratic candidate ever? Honestly?
If there was a Bill Clinton Democrat (ie. centrist) running this time, I'd vote for them. Not every Democrat has a hard-on for Obama.
Kalit on 2/9/2008 at 18:23
Republican: Ron Paul
Democrat: Dennis Kucinich
3rd party: Ralph Nader
Much better candidates, who actually stick to what they say, unlike McCain and Obama who switch what they say every time something gets popular with the public. I want someone who actually wants to get out of the middle east, who will stand up to big corporations (well more so than Obama and McCain at least), who want to cut wasteful military spending. The media of course screwed all 3 of those people out of having any sort of chance (and the parties themselves too).
SD on 2/9/2008 at 18:38
Those three candidates screwed themselves out of having any chance by being certifiable lunatics.
There was a rumour doing the rounds some months ago of a Paul/Kucinich joint ticket, which would be quite possibly the worst presidential ticket of all time. I'm not sure the world would even survive the inauguration.
