The Unknown Treasure NDV is ready! 7/29/14

csamba on 23/8/2014 at 20:52

Quote Posted by jiansonz

I have 5/9 secrets, the same ones as yours except for the speed potion. Where can I find this? (playing on Insane!, if that makes any difference).

How much loot do you have? I am currently at 4520/4920.

Speed potion: it depends on difficulty settings. I find Insane far too challenging so I play only on average - but AFAIK you'll find it on a high outer window ledge somewhere above an arched gateway:confused:
Loot: I'm a bit behind you, at 4420 (with the nuggets in the lava cave).

Sagittal on 24/8/2014 at 09:20

I finished with 4655 / 4920 and searched everywhere, so I thought, (most rooftops :p) for remaining secrets or loot but no luck. The only other secret I found was the pointed "Angelwatch" type light (150 loot) on top of the roof in the street with the bell opposite the house with the sleeping guy upstairs and open window.

csamba on 24/8/2014 at 13:19

Quote Posted by Sagittal

Thanks, so we have 7/9 secrets up to now. I've even tried gnartsch' (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131030&highlight=tricksters+loot+locator) excellent gadget but it detects only five secrets altogether.

Florian on 24/8/2014 at 19:26

Actually I think there are only 7 secrets. I checked in Dromed and it seems that 2 of the 9 secrets correspond to the 2 speed potion locations that differ according to difficulty levels. So probably all speed potion secrets count in the overall stats but are actually not "findable" as only one speed potion secret exists per difficulty level. Would be interesting if anyone can confirm my assumption. If yes I would be surprised that this was not checked in beta-testing ;)

csamba on 25/8/2014 at 13:18

Quote Posted by Florian

Actually I think there are only 7 secrets. I checked in Dromed and it seems that 2 of the 9 secrets correspond to the 2 speed potion locations

This is a likely explanation, the more so because I have all the loot by now, but no more secrets. I'm not qualified to confirm it though, because of my ignorance with Dromed:o.

A question about Mission 2: how can I open the third frobbable door in the first house, at the left end of the hallway? It is not pickable and I haven't found any key...

GORT on 25/8/2014 at 19:59

Quote Posted by csamba

This is a likely explanation, the more so because I have all the loot by now, but no more secrets. I'm not qualified to confirm it though, because of my ignorance with Dromed:o.

Yes, it's reading the secrets wrong (secret speed potion conflict). There is actually 7. Maybe I can get it to read 7. I'll try to get that fixed. Either that or make it have actually 9. :p

csamba on 26/8/2014 at 12:03

Quote Posted by GORT

Yes, it's reading the secrets wrong (secret speed potion conflict). There is actually 7. Maybe I can get it to read 7. I'll try to get that fixed. Either that or make it have actually 9. :p

If you fix that, "maybe" you could also consider relaxing the extreme time pressure on the lava rocks (Mission 1) and on the ice crystals (Mission 2) a little bit. For players over 18, with somewhat sluggish reflexes, they are unreasonably frustrating and wreck the joy.

BTW, Mission 2: is there a way to open the leftmost frobbable door in the first house (with the statue / button on the roof)?

Jaime Lannister on 26/8/2014 at 15:28

Quote Posted by csamba

BTW, Mission 2: is there a way to open the leftmost frobbable door in the first house (with the statue / button on the roof)?

Are you getting into the building from the balcony instead of the front door? If you do that, you won't be able to get through that door you're talking about. It only opens with a key found in one of the rooms on the ground floor. I had the same question as you when I initially couldn't figure out how to get through the front door; I broke the mission by going in from the second floor.

csamba on 26/8/2014 at 17:19

Quote Posted by Jaime Lannister

broke mission by going in from the second floor.

Thanks a bunch, I did exactly that before. Now I have those two pieces of missing loot:D
This, however, means that now I have nothing to block the spiky crusher wall near the end, so I'll have to put out the torches really fast :sweat:

jiansonz on 26/8/2014 at 20:11

Quote Posted by csamba

because I have all the loot by now

Nicely done!

Even with the loot from the secret Sagittal found (who'd have thought that antenna/spire thing was frobbable?!), I still miss 250. Care to tell me where the last (hardest) pieces you found are?