The science behind meditation. - by Epos Nix
jtr7 on 18/3/2008 at 09:55
Yeh-heh-hessss! :cheeky:
What's in the syringe...?:erm:
Kolya on 18/3/2008 at 16:50
Antidepressants
LesserFollies on 18/3/2008 at 17:13
Re: antidepressants and suicide: my admittedly uninformed understanding was that suicide attempts can happen when the antidepressants lift that part of depression which "depresses," if you will, action or activity before it makes you feel better emotionally about things. Part of depression is feeling incapable of doing things, bad or good. So antidepressants can suddenly "free" you to reach for the sleeping pills before it helps you not want to.
jtr7 on 18/3/2008 at 19:16
The irony of anti-depressants as inhibition remover. Works both ways, eh?
Epos Nix on 18/3/2008 at 19:29
I should think it's more to do with the fact that antidepressants are not a permanent fix to the underlying problems... they are merely a temporary reprieve.
While antidepressants may help even out some of the chemical imbalances in the brain at that particular moment, they do not and can not relieve the person of whatever external influences that may be occurring in that person's life that previously led to their depression. If a person loses their job or loses a family member, antidepressants are only going to go so far to relieve the person of any grief they may be experiencing. Compound these external burdens in the mind of someone who doesn't know how to cope with them mentally and add to that the mixed feelings the drugs are playing on the mind with and you have all the makings of an Unhappy Ending.
Drugs are only a temporary fix. Better to teach someone how to cope than expect drugs to do it for them.
jtr7 on 18/3/2008 at 19:38
:thumb:
Gorgonseye on 18/3/2008 at 23:45
Hay guise, like, this d00d gave me a bottle of pils and said iif i take it, it will like, make me happiar and coolier, what do I do with it? Do i just hold it? Do I need to put it in special spot in my room or wat?
Kolya on 19/3/2008 at 00:11
Eat them all at once to feel the magic of having five lips and three dicks and kinda being everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Or maybe you'll become impotent omnipotent, who knows.
Pyrian on 19/3/2008 at 00:41
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I've been seeing commercials for antidepressants that, as a side effect, increase suicidal thoughts.
I'm with LesserFollies - I think that basically the anti-depressant encourages them to do something about their problems.
Quote Posted by Epos Nix
I should think it's more to do with the fact that antidepressants are not a permanent fix to the underlying problems... they are merely a temporary reprieve.
While antidepressants may help even out some of the chemical imbalances in the brain at that particular moment, they do not and can not relieve the person of whatever external influences that may be occurring in that person's life that previously led to their depression. If a person loses their job or loses a family member, antidepressants are only going to go so far to relieve the person of any grief they may be experiencing. Compound these external burdens in the mind of someone who doesn't know how to cope with them mentally and add to that the mixed feelings the drugs are playing on the mind with and you have all the makings of an Unhappy Ending.
Drugs are only a temporary fix. Better to teach someone how to cope than expect drugs to do it for them.
Anti-depressants should not be used (and do not work) like this at all. They are only effective at treating people with the sort of persistent clinical depression that doesn't need an outside source. Feeling blue due to bad things happening in your life is perfectly normal, and not only should not be treated by anti-depressants, but actually
cannot be - they don't work any better than a placebo in such cases ((
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20080301/fob4.asp) source).
Epos Nix on 19/3/2008 at 01:11
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they don't work any better than a placebo in such cases
This fact doesn't stop doctors from over-prescribing the drugs though, which is what I have beef with. (
http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/04/05/25.php) (source)
And just because the drugs don't do much to reduce depression in non-clinical cases does
not mean that the drugs have no effect at all. Given the list of side-effects, of course they are going to do
something to a healthy mind.
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And just to be clear, antidepressants are not the only drug I'm complaining about here. Pretty much anything that affects the mind is suspect in my book. The source I gave above reported a 369% increase in spending on drugs to treat ADHD in 2003-2004....
for children under 5. And of course evidence to justify this increase is nonexistent.
