R Soul on 8/5/2008 at 20:30
Aren't those descriptions based on what other things tend to emit those colours?
Colour is based on the wavelength of the light, so similar wavelengths would look similar to each individual. So someone going red in the face with rage would appear to be a similar colour to something glowing red hot.
Kolya on 8/5/2008 at 20:45
Quote Posted by Vasquez
"Red" is just a name universally agreed on a certain color.
红色 Rood Rouge Rot Κόκκινος Rosso 赤い 빨간 Vermelho Красно Rojo
Actually not all colours always existed in all languages, eg I know that Violet didn't exist in German until it was taken over from French. Of course Germans could percieve the colour before that but would have called it "brown" or something.
SubJeff on 8/5/2008 at 20:49
Quote Posted by Kolya
[Of course Germans could percieve the colour
Could they? They don't perceive the idea of "funny" after all :p
What do you call a German with a sense of humour?
VE HAF VAYS UF MAKING YOO TALK!!Ben Gunn on 8/5/2008 at 21:14
Quote Posted by MrBosnia
Wrong. People can
describe colors.
For example blue is normally perceived to be calm, green is perceived to be zesty, and red is perceived to be aggressive and fiery. Someone who saw blue in place of red wouldn't describe the "blue" as aggressive and fiery.
What SE said.
And what about that study you quoted? Can I have a link or do I need to beg?
D'Juhn Keep on 8/5/2008 at 22:46
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
shut up music police the next track is PWEI and after that it's all Sensor have you even heard of it?
methinks the lady doth protest too much
MrBosnia on 8/5/2008 at 23:13
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Why wouldn't they? Because you don't? It's all a matter of perspective. I see glowing hot metal as a certain colour - red. Let's pretend you see it as a different colour - blue to me, red to you. You will grow to learn that hot metal is that colour. But if you were to see through my eyes you would see it a different way.
You cannot know how much of this perception is programmed and how much is learned. You argument does not work.
There is only one facet of colour interpretation and perception that I think we can say is universal, and that is colour clash/interaction. It is, afaik, the only thing that gives us an anchor and enables us to determine that broadly speaking colours are interpreted in the same way by all people. I'm talking about the interactions that are the basis of colour blindness tests. If colours were truly interchangeable these tests would not work. And things like text readability according to font and background colour would not be universal.
Or course, if one really wants to stretch it one could posit the notion that despite being seemingly universal an infinite number of colours exist, and since I see a range you can not even comprehend within your experience (and vice versa) within that minute selection of possibilities all of these clashes and tests still function.
I happen to be listening to POD "Sleeping Awake" as I type this btw. "Do you see what I see?" What a coincidence.
shut up music police the next track is PWEI and after that it's all Sensor have you even heard of it?
Either way we can't prove or disprove that other human beings view different hues for different colors. Its essentially a stalemated question.
SubJeff on 8/5/2008 at 23:26
Yeah, that's what we've been saying. You're the one who said there was some report or something.
Ha ha Ig, I think you're right.
MrBosnia on 9/5/2008 at 01:12
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Yeah, that's what we've been saying. You're the one who said there was some report or something.
Ha ha Ig, I think you're right.
Your argument was strong enough, and convinced me. Its rare that happens to me actually.
SubJeff on 9/5/2008 at 01:15
We still haven't seen this study though.
