crunchy on 7/5/2008 at 05:36
Quote Posted by MrBosnia
all religions are gradually losing their peaceful ancestry
What peacful ancestry? :confused:
Many of the violent events throughout Earth's history (wars and persecutions) have been fuelled by religion.
MrBosnia on 7/5/2008 at 06:27
Quote Posted by crunchy
What peacful ancestry? :confused:
Many of the violent events throughout Earth's history (wars and persecutions) have been fuelled by religion.
Wars have been a by-product of religion, but religion is not a by-product of wars.
Koki on 7/5/2008 at 08:02
Quote Posted by MrBosnia
Remember a few years ago that one school district in Virginia who banned any Pokemon material in their schools, including the games and other gadgets and claimed that the franchise advocated evolution?
But it does!
ercles on 7/5/2008 at 09:49
The ironies of a person who calls themselves heretic sledging religion melt my brain
Tintin on 7/5/2008 at 10:33
There's a huge difference between magic tricks and using witchcraft to communicate with the dead and demons and animals.
Tocky on 7/5/2008 at 11:50
That's exactly what I was saying to my dead demon chicken the other day.
henke on 7/5/2008 at 12:01
Quote Posted by Tintin
There's a huge difference between magic tricks and using witchcraft to communicate with the dead and demons and animals.
That sounds like WIZARDTALK to me! GET 'IM, BOYS!
Vasquez on 7/5/2008 at 15:16
Quote Posted by Tintin
There's a huge difference between magic tricks and using witchcraft to communicate with the dead and demons and animals.
Yeah, the first is for making others believe there's something "supernatural" going on, the second is for making yourself believe that.
Rogue Keeper on 7/5/2008 at 16:57
Quote Posted by MrBosnia
Dogma is ebbing away in today's world, when humans start to realize what it is like to live a rational, logical, and clear life without the need to submit to a nonexistent supernatural being.
You're either a puristic paleomarxist or a technocrat.
Humans started to question the existence or non-existence of god (or "supernatural being" if you will) rationally, logically and clearly about as long as they are humans. Ironically they haven't been able to find a definitive for or against proof to this day. Welcome to the world.
Jennie&Tim on 7/5/2008 at 17:08
Religion isn't going away. My hypothesis is that it's built into most people, a side-effect of the brain's ability to make patterns and see otherness (so that we realize other people have their own motives and knowledge). The advantages to humanity of these dual abilities are too great to allow selection against the propensity to humanize external patterns into a deity.
More simply, because we perceive others and patterns, most people percieve gods with the same immediacy that they percieve people. You aren't going to argue, reason, or tech them out of it; anymore than you'd be persuaded that red doesn't exist.
Because gods are reflections of the people percieving them, you'll have good people doing good things with that perception; and bad people doing bad things.
I've run across these ideas through various people, I cannot even separate out where I found them; but they are not strictly my own, mysterious others deserve credit for them. I'll take responsibility for any stupidities though.
I didn't expect this particular direction for this thread, I admit.
