T-Smith on 26/3/2010 at 03:32
Quote Posted by frozenman
I don't think the episode meant to 'reveal' that it is in fact Good & Evil that are involved on the island, but rather that's the way Alpert understood his own situation- he's a much older guy and they believed in god n' shit back then.
More or less. Alpet came from a time and place where Christianity was the norm. It would make sense for the M.I.B. to try and manipulate Richard using Hell and the Devil. It's not meant to actually mean that the smoke monster is Satan and the island is Hell. It's just an example of the time period.
Dresden on 26/3/2010 at 22:27
I really liked this episode. The Spanish sets were very well done. I hate that they played the whole "rich asshole doctor" card though. They should've made him poor and polite but very desperate to get paid for the medicine. Then I would have felt sorry for Richard killing him.
The thing I thought was interesting was how Jacob was so much more intense than the mellow guy we've been seeing. I'm guessing that they'd just inherited the island from the previous guardians and were very much still normal people.
T-Smith on 31/3/2010 at 05:35
Good episode. The alt finally seems to be getting interesting. My guess is next we'll see Jack operating on Sun. All the characters are still being pulled together, even without Jacob. The question is, to what end.
The on-island story was good too. A definite step-up from Recon, with some interesting scenes and notes for the future. Desmond being the package was fairly obvious I thought, but I'm interested to see exactly what his role will be in the upcoming battle.
T-Smith on 5/5/2010 at 04:24
Thread revive.
It's been a while since anything has been posted in here, but I felt this episode was worth it. The best of season 6 so far, and one of the best the show has ever offered (IMO). There are only two new episodes left until the 2.5 hour finale and with the way things are moving, I honestly can't predict what's going to happen.
Jack's slow character arc seems to be complete. Over the first four seasons he grew more and more frustrated at trying to escape from an island that seemed to want him to stay, and trying to use science to explain everything while keeping the crash survivors safe. Since season 5, he's been slowly becoming an evolved form of John Locke. He has faith in the island, Jacob, and his destiny. The difference between the two of them though is that Jack isn't afraid - he's ready (or at least thinks he's ready) for what's coming.
This episode killed off four characters. Sayid was once the one character everyone could agree to love, but after "Sundown" this season he's been pretty much dead. His sendoff was fitting. Frank's was abrupt but, considering the overall importance of the character, not surprising. Sun and Jin dying though, was very well done. The writers realized they had no where else to take the characters - their arcs were finished, they'd found each other again.
I'd also like to pint out how fantastic Locke has been this season. The character changes with him and Jack have been fantastic. Terry O'Quinn played the man of faith through the first 5 seasons of the show. Now he plays a character who seems to despise Locke, calling him weak and a sucker. Mathew Fox played the man of science, someone who NEEDED to fix things. Now he's the man of faith, and is forced to defend a man he once hated against a creature who looks exactly like said man. Add to that the fact that Fox is portraying Jack in the alt reality like he was in previous seasons (always needing to fix things) and I'd say that this season has seen some of the best acting the show has ever offered.
Anyways, I know that was a lot of writing. But for those of you still watching and waiting, the end is in sight. Questions have been answered, plots have been resolved, and the pieces have been set. Only a couple of episodes left until we learn whether or not the whole thing has been taking place in a dream.
Renzatic on 5/5/2010 at 05:24
I only have one problem with Jin and Sun's dramatic and admittedly heartstring-tugging death scene. Sure, it was a noble gesture for Jin to choose to drown alongside his wife, but he seemed to forget that that noble gesture would make an orphan of his newborn baby daughter. That fact makes his otherwise selfless sacrifice a bit selfish, and adds an acerbic twist to an otherwise bittersweet ending for them both.
And why the hell did they have to kill off Frank? I liked Frank. They didn't do nearly enough with Frank. And now Frank's dead. :(
Still, despite those reservations, I agree with you totally and found it to be one of the better episodes of the season. I rank it just behind Sundown.
Renault on 5/5/2010 at 19:42
Quote Posted by T-Smith
There are only two new episodes left until the 2.5 hour finale and with the way things are moving, I honestly can't predict what's going to happen.
Funny, said the same thing to my wife last night (no jokes please). Everything seems up in the air right now as far as what will happen and how the show will end. The major thing of course is the alt timeline - how will it be combined (or will it) with the current timeline and what exactly will it mean. Pretty tough to predict, but I'd have to guess Desmond is the key, and John Locke (the real Locke) will return, or they wouldn't be spending screen time on him.
Next week's episode looks great, with the entire hour being dedicated to the history of Jacob and the Man In Black. Can't wait.
Edit: Btw, did we really see Frank die? I think not. Also, I wonder what Richard/Ben/Miles are up to?
T-Smith on 5/5/2010 at 22:07
Frank's character was pretty much at its limit. He was a good supporting character during seasons 4 and 5. In 6 though, he's basically been following everyone, throwing out snark remarks and comments. Don't get me wrong, he's been one of my favourites, even with his lack of importance. However with the Losties not leaving the island via plane (which seemed to be the only real reason they kept Frank around - to give the audience the idea that he was going to be piloting it), his day was pretty much done. Though a better death scene would have been appreciated, only because he was such a fan favourite.
EDIT - Desmond has to be key. The writers have been building up his importance for the end game pretty much since "Further Instructions" back in season 3, when he started seeing the future. As Faraday said, he's miraculously unique (most likely due to his expose to all the electromagnetic energy of The Swan in "Live Together, Die Alone").
Also, best lines of the episode -
MIB - "Whoever told you that you have to stay had no idea what he was talking about."
Jack - "John Locke told me I have to stay." *knocks down MIB*
and
Hurley - "What about Sayid!?"
Jack - "There is no Sayid!"
steo on 5/5/2010 at 23:31
I left a large gap after watching the first four episodes of this season and catching up with it now. I think after a fantastic season five finale, season six started off pretty poorly, and I was rather frustrated with the new flash-sideways mechanic, because it didn't seem to be going anywhere and looked like they were trying to invent new side-plots which apparently had little or nothing to do with the rest of the story. After the Desmond episode however, I'm again interested in the outcome of the series. Desmond has always been one of my favourite characters, so it's good to see him playing a crucial role.
The Ben Linus episode was also good, I thought. It's interesting to see how Ben, and nearly all of the key influential 'leader' characters have either completely lost their resolve (Ben, Jack, Richard) or been killed (Locke, Jacob, Samurai, Elana). It seems like Sawyer is the only one left with any real fight in him. Well, plus Widmore and his crew.
The last episode was pretty good, especially because of the death toll. It's good to see that they're finally killed off Jin and Sun, because their characters always bored me, but I was a little puzzled at just how Kate managed to acquire Call of Duty health regeneration.
frozenman on 6/5/2010 at 00:46
I kind of liked this show better when it wasn't trying to wrap things up, but perhaps that's because this is the first season I can remember where I've watched them as-aired. But something about the pace of the recent episodes just seems clunky- I kind of feel like the final episode will be everyone remaining wielding guns and fighting the smoke monster with spells cast by Desmond and plenty of courage points from Jack in an epic boss fight.
