The Lost Season Six Thread - spoilers be damned

Queue on 10/6/2010 at 04:04

Bears turning donkey wheels while traipsing about through time.... This just gets better and better.

Renzatic on 10/6/2010 at 04:49

Queue, you obviously aren't able to grasp the intricacies of higher quantum physics. I think it'd be best for everyone involved if you just shut up and left the hard thinking to those of us that do. :mad:

Anyway...Lost...woohoo. It had its moments, most definitely. But I have to admit, in retrospect, the ending did let the whole thing down a bit. There was so much more that could've been done that plain and simply wasn't. So many other angles that could've been approached, but were totally ignored. Even if they were pulling the whole thing out of their ass the entire time, you'd think they'd have given it a tidier, more appropriate sendoff considering how well they've managed other ass pulled events in the past.

Still, I thought it was a blast up til, and I don't really feel like the whole show has been ruined simply because they dropped the ball at the end. Season 1, 2, the 2nd half of 3, 4, 5, and parts of 6 were grand good fun while I was watching them, and hey...ultimately they still are.

Schechter on 10/6/2010 at 05:01

The wife and I are still going to miss Michael Emerson terribly. Ah well, at least Matt Smith is doing very well as the Doctor, and we can actually watch this season, thanks to iTunes. (PBS airs the show, but they've been endlessly recycling seasons 2-4).

Queue on 10/6/2010 at 05:11

Quote Posted by Renzatic

But...but..I'm starting to understand!

Okay, honestly, don't all of you who bought the DVDs of seasons past -- with the promise that this whole thing is going someplace planted firmly in the back of your heads -- somehow feel cheated?

T-Smith on 10/6/2010 at 06:17

Not really. I enjoyed the ending. It could have been better, yes. They SHOULD have done more. But it was still pretty good, and wrapped things up.

The fact is, the ending wasn't so "OMG HORRIBLE KILL IT WITH FIRE" as to ruin the show. It doesn't take away from the fact that for 6 years (for the most part anyways) the show was original, and fun to watch. It didn't reach the ending that everyone wanted. But that didn't take away from the ride that led to it.

Some people just get way too hung up on answers to really care about the show at all. It's also hard to explain the show to someone who's never watched. I'd imagine that hearing bits and pieces makes you think that anyone who likes it must be batshit insane.

Thirith on 10/6/2010 at 07:15

Quote Posted by Queue

Okay, honestly, don't all of you who bought the DVDs of seasons past -- with the promise that this whole thing is going someplace planted firmly in the back of your heads -- somehow feel cheated?

I'm pretty much in the same boat as T-Smith. Was I disappointed by the ending? Somewhat... but then, I thought it was an okay ending in terms of resolving plot strands but pretty nice in terms of the characters' journey.

I have to say that I'm somewhat annoyed at the show writers and the fans who say that the show was more about the characters than about the plot. I enjoyed watching the characters, but other than a handful of them I wouldn't watch a series about them that didn't revolve around weird shit, cliffhangers and big mysteries. In addition, what kept Lost going for most of its run was the sheer number of new mysteries the series created. What kept people glued to the sofa wasn't "OMG, will Kate end up with Sawyer or with Jack?", "Will Charlie be able to kick his drug habit?" or "Will Hurley lose weight?" It was stuff like "What are the numbers? What's the hatch? What does the button do? Polar bears?! Black smoke?!" At its best the series managed to balance characters and plot, but it's simply a lie to say that the series' main hook wasn't the plot (and the plot-related mysteries) it kept throwing at us.

doctorfrog on 13/6/2010 at 07:31

The problem with the ending was that it wasn't the ending.

It was just an ending.

It was one of many possible endings, and as an ending, it just threw a cap over everything and said, "There it is, we're done."

The thing is, there were so many other interesting things that were going on that deserved satisfying answers, that the ending just was no longer possible. So we got that ending. And the reason why it was so unsatisfying to so many people was because it rendered so many things that actually were interesting as completely moot.

That's why people are unhappy. The ending that was slapped on was roughly equivalent to "Oh, it was just a dream," or "God/Q did it." This is always unsatisfactory to people that really want a puzzle to wrap their heads around. These people need to get over it, yes, but there are other people that need to get over the fact that other people aren't over it yet.

It was a good series with a shit last five minutes. So was Battlestar Galactica. It can't all be like (http://gog.is/all/good/things/star/trek/tng) All Good Things...

(Sorry if any of this doesn't make sense, it's saturday night and this is my drunk post for the month.)

Thirith on 13/6/2010 at 11:09

Quote Posted by doctorfrog

That's why people are unhappy. The ending that was slapped on was roughly equivalent to "Oh, it was just a dream," or "God/Q did it."

I don't think I'll ever get this complaint, because what matters is that X is real to the characters. And X, in this case, was very real to the characters. (Since you brought up Star Trek: TNG, I'm gonna counter with the DS9 episode "Hard Time". Arguably, the meat of that episode never happened, yet it doesn't matter at all, because it did happen for O'Brien.)

SubJeff on 13/6/2010 at 11:21

I'll never get that view because it's wrong.

doctorfrog on 13/6/2010 at 16:33

Quote Posted by Thirith

Well, we can agree that Hard Time was pretty awesome, then. And O'Brien really did kicked around quite a lot on DS9, the poor guy.