Renault on 2/11/2017 at 22:16
I'm kind of surprised by some people's reaction here to this trailer. They're just setting the stage - these games are about surviving in a harsh environment, specifically a post apocalyptic world. It's almost a cliche by now, and has been done many times before - The Walking Dead, The Road, the Stand, I Am Legend, the list goes on. The first trailer showed Joel and Ellie. Now we're seeing the other side of the equation. It's all just setting up the game.
And like they said, this is a game designed by adults for adults. It's not supposed to be seashells and balloons.
They have no reason to be insecure about the quality of the game. This first one got incredible reviews. This one has been in development for several years, using high quality voice actors and composers, not to mention the existing staff at Naughty Dog. I'm sure Sony has given them a very large budget and the freedom to do what they want.
Starker on 2/11/2017 at 23:32
The violence in the trailer seems pointless and gratuitous. A grindhouse flick can get away with this, but more serious works deal primarily with mature themes -- which gratuitous violence is not. Seashells and balloons don't even enter into it. For example, in The Walking Dead, the violence is not there just for the sake of violence. It's there to showcase the fragility of humans and to escalate consequences. In fact, the comic is not explicitly about zombies either -- it's about human relationships pushed to the extreme. The zombies are just the means to do it.
Judith on 3/11/2017 at 06:47
I'm not sure whether this is a good analogy, but imagine Rockstar advdertising GTA 5 with Trevor and that infamous torture scene. Or 2K advertising Bioshock Infinite DLC with the final scene of Atlas torturing Elisabeth to death. These scenes are highest-key moments in those games, you really can't go much further than that. And why on Earth would you want to have such scene spoiled in the trailer, and not leave it to be experienced by players on their own? I thought that if the trailer means to set the overall tone of the game with such scene, that might mean they chose the Outlast 2 route, which was a pointless gorefest (and a poor game, tbh). I really hope I'm wrong though.
henke on 3/11/2017 at 07:39
Quote Posted by Judith
And why on Earth would you want to have such scene spoiled in the trailer, and not leave it to be experienced by players on their own?
Also speculating here, but I'm not sure it
is in the game. It might just be a piece of backstory created for the trailer. And you know what THE INTERNET is speculating? That hammer lady might be Ellie's mom! And you know what else I'm gonna go ahead and speculate RIGHT NOW? That it IS Ellie's mom and you'll play half of the game as her BEFORE the events of TLOU and half of the game as Ellie or Joel AFTER TLOU! Yup, pretty amazing right?
Judith on 3/11/2017 at 09:16
Or maybe it's Ellie's older evil twin? Or her mom's evil twin? So it's either Days of our lives/Brazillian telenovela level of excitement and speculation, or just some pointless violence. None of this is mature, IMO. But hey, I'm sure we'll see a follow-up at some point, maybe that will clarify things a little bit.
scumble on 3/11/2017 at 09:27
It's another indication to me that it's often a good idea to avoid hype. I'm usually out of touch with game news but I find going into a well rated game with no preconceptions to be better than having discussed the marketing for months previously.
Also don't underestimate the idiocy coming from marketing departments.
Starker on 3/11/2017 at 11:27
It's supposedly an in-game scene.
Also, wait, what hammer lady? The man who smashes the girl's arm with a hammer is Ellie's mom?
Btw, Sony's defence that these are games made by adults for adults is nonsense. Who else would make these games? Children? Even something like Super Mario is made by adults. And just because something is made for adults doesn't mean that it can't be juvenile. Violence alone doesn't make something mature. I mean, Jackass has violence.
twisty on 3/11/2017 at 14:59
Yep, damn good for her triceps too by the looks of things.
demagogue on 4/11/2017 at 13:14
I think that video wouldn't play on my phone before, so I shouldn't have bothered posting before.
Watching it now, it looks like prologue, and establishing who the really bad guys are. I guess.
Anyway, the hammer reminded me of T2X. If you'll recall (if you played it), that tried to pass a hammer off as a kind of blackjack, just knocking a person unconscious. But when you're actually using it, it's a very visceral thing. You don't feel like you're just conking a guy. You feel like you're smashing a hole into his skull and murdering him. It's an uncomfortable feeling as a regular weapon.
