Sulphur on 22/6/2020 at 16:08
Quote Posted by chk772
Get back to me when you actually have something meaningful to say. Apart from "you so stupid, I post a Simpson meme!".
I did! Pay attention! Also, if you want the meme that badly...
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chk772 on 22/6/2020 at 16:15
Quote Posted by Brethren
This is a really bizarre complaint. So, are you saying you want a button for "pant?" Or are you doing this yourself, out loud, at your desk or on your couch? How about another button for "put hand on crate and look around corner" or Press X to "place hand over mouth and slash throat?"
I don't want none of that. What makes you think I do? And, what makes the game developers think I want to play a protagonist who constantly moans and groans and pants?
But, I don't think that you really understood the essence of my rant. It's not really solely about this, there's a lot of stuff in the presentation, and immersive feel in modern games which I could criticize. At the moment, I focus on this, because it's something which I noticed. I also noticed that there's so much freakin' babble in GTA 5 that I somehow had to drive around the block 4 or 5 times, just to hear the NPC's babble to the end. Weird, I know. Just stop the babble by driving straight to the end location. Yes. :) Again, it's just something I noticed, because, in GTA 4, there hasn't been remotely such a amount of babble.
All those things really fit into the picture of the world today. That's all I want to say.
Jeshibu on 22/6/2020 at 16:15
Quote Posted by Brethren
This is a really bizarre complaint. So, are you saying you want a button for "pant?" Or are you doing this yourself, out loud, at your desk or on your couch? How about another button for "put hand on crate and look around corner" or Press X to "place hand over mouth and slash throat?"
This is pretty disingenuous. He wants no/less player character sound, not a button for it. He also wants less of the animations to be little cutscenes you're just watching while not doing anything. Which is actually pretty bizarre because original Tomb Raider had a whole lot of those, from pulling up ledges and pulling switches to picking up items. Hm.
chk772 on 22/6/2020 at 16:15
Quote Posted by Sulphur
I did! Pay attention! Also, if you want the meme that badly...
No, you didn't at all. All you did was rant about a rant, and post a Simpsons meme.
chk772 on 22/6/2020 at 16:17
Quote Posted by Jeshibu
This is pretty disingenuous. He wants no/less player character sound, not a button for it. He also wants less of the animations to be little cutscenes you're just watching while not doing anything. Which is actually pretty bizarre because original Tomb Raider had a whole lot of those, from pulling up ledges and pulling switches to picking up items. Hm.
Do you actually see what I see? I see little quick events (not to confuse with quick time events) in The Last of Us. Not animations. Maybe I'm hallucinating, or living in a different reality. You never know.
It's actually less immersive than just a animation, because it rather resembles watching a movie than actually showing how YOU do stuff.
Sulphur on 22/6/2020 at 16:23
Quote Posted by chk772
No, you didn't at all. All you did was rant about a rant, and post a Simpsons meme.
Get back to me when you're able to not present subjective preferences for the volume of contextual action and information games provide as a qualitative appraisal of them.
Jeshibu on 22/6/2020 at 16:23
Quote Posted by chk772
Do you actually see what I see? I see little quick events (not to confuse with quick time events) in The Last of Us. Not animations. Maybe I'm hallucinating, or living in a different reality. You never know.
Okay I'm just confused then. You're arguing against the game making any assumptions about what the player wants to do and filling in little details? You don't want a player character to put a hand on a nearby surface when it's close? You want looking around a corner and leaping over things to be manual and non-contextual? I can't even begin to comprehend what your problem with the stabbing is if it's not animations locking character for a bit or the QTE aspect.
chk772 on 22/6/2020 at 16:25
Eh... I think you're smart enough to know that there's a little difference between a little grab to hold on to a surface, and a little movie which plays when you actually kill or stun a NPC. Look at what's going on there, and take a guess what would happen in terms of gameplay, if you would force the player to press a button for every single thing he does. Totally different to those little movies which play every time you do something in modern games.
Renault on 22/6/2020 at 16:34
Quote Posted by Jeshibu
This is pretty disingenuous. He wants no/less player character sound, not a button for it.
He threw me a bit when he said "all stuff which I wished I could do myself." But I get it now.
@chk772 - Have you played either of the Last of Us games? Just wondered, because sometimes it's hard to tell from watching a youtube clip how interactive a game is or not.
Jeshibu on 22/6/2020 at 16:37
Quote Posted by chk772
Eh... I think you're smart enough to know that there's a little difference between a little grab to hold on to a surface, and a little movie which plays when you actually kill or stun a NPC. Look at what's going on there, and take a guess what would happen in terms of gameplay, if you would force the player to press a button for every single thing he does. Totally different to those little movies which play every time you do something in modern games.
Bro that's literally what I fucking said:
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He also wants less of the animations to be little cutscenes you're just watching while not doing anything.