Renzatic on 18/4/2017 at 18:25
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Sanders would have had the support of the bernie bros in spades had he not endorsed the crooked one, he was pretty much abandoned after that endorsement.
And what has their puritan approach to politics achieved for them thus far?
jkcerda on 18/4/2017 at 18:35
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And what has their puritan approach to politics achieved for them thus far?
same thing the endorsement did for Sanders, NOTHING . had he held steady he could have had an even better shot come 2020. as of now it's hard to say who the dems will prop up against cheeto hitler. assuming of course the orangegutan makes it to 2020
Renzatic on 18/4/2017 at 18:37
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same thing the endorsement did for Sanders, NOTHING . had he held steady he could have had an even better shot come 2020. as of now it's hard to say who the dems will prop up against cheeto hitler. assuming of course the orangegutan makes it to 2020
Yes and no. Sanders, who's a bit more wise to the rules of the game than they, is currently in congress trying his best to fight what he considers the good fight. But their insistence on Bernie or Bust has done nothing but further enable a Trump presidency, making his own fight that much more difficult.
jkcerda on 18/4/2017 at 18:44
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1.Yes and no. Sanders, who's a bit more wise to the rules of the game than they, is currently in congress trying his best to fight what he considers the good fight.
2.But their insistence on Bernie or Bust has done nothing but further enable a Trump presidency, making his own fight that much more difficult.
1 and getting nowhere.
2. good, we deserve what we get. she had to cheat to beat the old socialist bastard, that along with neocons supporting her should have clued everyone in that she was not fit to serve .
it was epic watching the liberal meltdown as the states started to turn red :D
Renzatic on 18/4/2017 at 19:00
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1. and getting nowhere.
It's an uphill battle, though he's drawing more and more attention to himself the more people lose due to the far right push the Republicans are currently making. As I said, he currently ranks as our most popular political at the moment.
...which, yeah, is a pretty low bar, all things considered. But still.
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2. good, we deserve what we get. she had to cheat to beat the old socialist bastard, that along with neocons supporting her should have clued everyone in that she was not fit to serve.
The funniest thing is, the Republicans tried the same thing against Trump, and utterly failed in the attempt due to overcrowding their own field. I'm sure even now, they'd much rather have Bush, Rubio, or Kasich in the White House than the mouthbreather we're all currently calling Mr. President.
Though neither the Republicans nor the Democrats truly cheated. They're private parties, perfectly within their constitutional rights to support or ignore any candidate on whim. They're not allowed to deny anyone from running under their banner, but they don't have to do anyone any favors, either. This is what the Democrats did to Sanders. They didn't actively stymie his efforts (though they did toy with the idea, per the Podesta emails), but they didn't lift a finger to help him out, either.
A lot of the anger we've seen this election season stems mostly from the fact that a lot of people have only now discovered exactly how our government works, and don't necessarily like it. That, and the fact this election season illustrated some of the weaknesses in our system in stark contrast.
jkcerda on 18/4/2017 at 19:10
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It's an uphill battle, though he's drawing more and more attention to himself the more people lose due to the far right push the Republicans are currently making. As I said, he currently ranks as our most popular political at the moment.
...which, yeah, is a pretty low bar, all things considered. But still.
The funniest thing is, the Republicans tried the same thing against Trump, and utterly failed in the attempt due to overcrowding their own field. I'm sure even now, they'd much rather have Bush, Rubio, or Kasich in the White House than the mouthbreather we're all currently calling Mr. President.
Though neither the Republicans nor the Democrats truly cheated. They're private parties, perfectly within their constitutional rights to support or ignore any candidate on whim. They're not allowed to deny anyone from running under their banner, but they don't have to do anyone any favors, either. This is what the Democrats did to Sanders. They didn't actively stymie his efforts (though they did toy with the idea, per the Podesta emails), but they didn't lift a finger to help him out, either.
A lot of the anger we've seen this election season stems mostly from the fact that a lot of people have only now discovered exactly how our government works, and don't necessarily like it. That, and the fact this election season illustrated some of the weaknesses in our system in stark contrast.
know what pisses me off? aside from extenze not working even when I tried a whole case of it, or the fact I am not moderator yet even after all these post, it's the fact we had the worst society and govt had to offer and 3rd parties STILL did not get anywhere, didn't break 5% in this history election, I don't ever see us having such an Election where third parties might seem relevant, if they were not relevant against these POS morons that ran they will never be relevant, Gary did himself no favors by picking Weld, hell he went full retard by stating that him NOT knowing where Aleppo was was his strong point , put the fucking bong down.
Renzatic on 18/4/2017 at 19:20
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know what pisses me off? aside from extenze not working even when I tried a whole case of it, or the fact I am not moderator yet even after all these post, it's the fact we had the worst society and govt had to offer and 3rd parties STILL did not get anywhere, didn't break 5% in this history election, I don't ever see us having such an Election where third parties might seem relevant, if they were not relevant against these POS morons that ran they will never be relevant, Gary did himself no favors by picking Weld, hell he went full retard by stating that him NOT knowing where Aleppo was was his strong point , put the fucking bong down.
Probably because it's historically difficult for any 3rd party candidate to break through our two party default. It's been done previously, sure, though they were spurred on by universally popular candidates, and only ever managed to take the Executive branch for a term or two, rather than acting as the catalyst for sudden, sweeping changes. Ole Gary just wasn't popular enough, nor bright enough to pull it off.
All real revolutions in the US happen slowly from the inside. You're looking at one now to some extent. The Republican party is no longer quite the same party it was 10 years ago, certainly isn't the same party it was 50 years ago. Barry Goldwater and the Religious Right have slowly changed the course of the party until it's become what we see it as today. That's how things are changed here in the US. Not through sudden action (barring severe circumstances, such as the Great Depression), but through slow pressure. Until people start realizing that, ain't shit gon' get dun!
Plus there's the fact that Johnson's Libertarian platform is seen as the worst of liberalism by the conservatives, and the worst of conservatism by the liberals. It's something of a doomed party anyway.
jkcerda on 18/4/2017 at 19:23
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Probably because it's historically difficult for any 3rd party candidate to break through our two party default. It's been done previously, sure, though they were spurred on by universally popular candidates, and only ever managed to take the Executive branch for a term or two, rather than acting as the catalyst for sudden, sweeping changes. Ole Gary just wasn't popular enough, nor bright enough to pull it off.
All real revolutions in the US happen slowly from the inside. You're looking at one now to some extent. The Republican party is no longer quite the same party it was 10 years ago, certainly isn't the same party it was 50 years ago. Barry Goldwater and the Religious Right have slowly changed the course of the party until it's become what we see it as today. That's how things are changed here in the US. Not through sudden action (barring severe circumstances, such as the Great Depression), but through slow pressure. Until people start realizing that, ain't shit gon' get dun!
Plus there's the fact that Johnson's Libertarian platform is seen as the worst of liberalism by the conservatives, and the worst of conservatism by the liberals. It's something of a doomed party anyway.
guess I better practice some "pragmatism" and re-join the republitard party
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http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd250/jkcerda/thstirthepot.gifRenzatic on 18/4/2017 at 19:33
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guess I better practice some "pragmatism" and re-join the republitard party
No offense man, but you're like the living example of the single issue voter. As a Mexican immigrant living just north of the border, it won't really matter if you're allowed your guns if you've been booted out of the country for not being American enough. That's like cutting your dick off in support of public orgies, isn't it?
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this is what happens when you shoot plastic guns in 9mm and wear freaking man buns ........
What? You've never had a nosebleed before?
Also, they have condom machines in women's restrooms these days. It's just a thing, and it ain't bother me none.
