EvaUnit02 on 12/4/2009 at 15:17
I loathe Apple's music players. DRM-infected rubbish.
If a portable music player doesn't act as if it were standard USB flash memory when plugged into a computer (ie only needing to use an operating system's built-in file management facilities), then it's worth shit to me.
I shouldn't have to use some God awful DRM-ridden bloatware program like Itunes to organise my MP3s.
thefonz on 12/4/2009 at 16:59
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
I loathe Apple's music players. DRM-infected rubbish.
If a portable music player doesn't act as if it were standard USB flash memory when plugged into a computer (ie only needing to use an operating system's built-in file management facilities), then it's worth shit to me.
I shouldn't have to use some God awful DRM-ridden bloatware program like Itunes to organise my MP3s.
Totally agree. This is another reason I hate apple. My brother has an ipod and a few years ago he installed itunes on my pc as his computer was busted and he needed some music. I had all my music organised, knew exactly where it was. Itunes utterly fucked my music collection and I've been stuck with it's stupid retarded filing system ever since even though i've uninstalled it the next day.
Saying that, I use winamp now to organise my music and just resort to dumping any ripped albums etc into one MY MUSIC folder and let winamp scan it and organise it. But sometimes when I want to get that one track or find an album I have to trawl through the clusterfuck filing itunes left me with.
Hence:
ITUNES AND APPLE RUINED MY LIFE.
David on 12/4/2009 at 17:31
iTunes isn't perfect but any stretch of the imagination, but it isn't its fault you didn't check the options.
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http://www.ttlg.com/dave/itunes.pngthefonz on 12/4/2009 at 17:58
Maybe so, but its still a stupid piece of idiot-ware.
june gloom on 12/4/2009 at 18:05
Fuck any music player that isn't Winamp 2.9x. 10 years and still going strong.
Kolya on 12/4/2009 at 18:09
I hope I'm not the only one who organises his MP3s manually (in TotalCommander) and uses an audio player (Foobar2000) to play music.
But then every time I get some super duper albums from a mac/itunes using friend I have to sift through _MACOSX folders containing name-copies of every fucking file, with nothing sorted, appropriately named or tagged, let alone gained, and don't even think to ask for album art!
So I may well be alone in my mission to archive music in a way that even my grandchildren could find anything they like in seconds without having to scrounge the ruins of an Apple museum for some obsolete piece of shitty software.
David on 12/4/2009 at 18:30
The _MACOSX files are OSX metadata and have nothing to do with iTunes, so you won't find anything relevant in there. Tagging and Artwork are, by default, embedded in the files.
Kolya on 12/4/2009 at 18:51
Well I guess I just have sloppy friends. I know what the _MACOSX folders are. They're from the same company that produces itunes.
I didn't know that about the artwork being embedded, but it doesn't make me a happy robot either. I don't want every MP3 file bloated with a small image. I want one highres cover as a JPG file that I can watch in any picture viewer or manipulate in Photoshop.
My MP3 player of choice is a 40GB HD Iriver on which I run an open source linux derivative as firmware. Just to give you an idea of what I like, after I mentioned so many things I don't like. :)
june gloom on 12/4/2009 at 19:01
Yeah I'm not a fan of album art being embedded into mp3s, myself. I had a copy of Beloved's Failure On, two songs of which had, for album art, a smiling black child with the caption SMILE YOUR A NIGGER. Because Winamp 2.95 does not show album art, I did not know about this until someone else pointed it out to me.
That's the last time I get music off Soulseek.
henke on 12/4/2009 at 19:04
Quote Posted by thefonz
Maybe so, but its still a stupid piece of idiot-ware.
Mmmno. As someone who has used both WinAmp and iTunes for a few years each allow me to list each apps advantages over the other:
WinAmp:
+Enque function (HOW HARD IS TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING AS SIMLE AS THIS APPLE FFS?)
iTunes:
+easier editing of multiple ID3 tags
+easier management of playlists
Umm... yeah that's it. I don't use the iTunes store so I can't comment on that.
Although since I got a Spotify invite from a friend last christmas all other mediaplayers have pretty much fallen by the wayside.
Quote Posted by Kolya
I don't want every MP3 file bloated with a small image.
Well with iTunes you can delete the embedded image. :cheeky:
I like the embedded images though. Some artists really go crazy with em. On NIN's The Slip for example every song had a different embedded image. Like little artworks inspired by the song. The songs on The Slip also had the full lyrics for each song written out in the Text field of the ID3 tag. So you can actually read the lyrics on your iPod while listening to the song. That was pretty neat.
