Koki on 29/4/2009 at 18:39
Quote Posted by dethtoll
I've always found it funny how cyberpunk in the 80s predicted a lot of things accurately but they never ever counted on cell phones.
The rulebook for Cyberpunk 2020 has cell phones, but they're super hi-tech and expensive.
gunsmoke on 30/4/2009 at 01:50
Quote Posted by Kolya
Now I know that car manufacturers have been doing this for a long time.
You 'know' this? I know for a fact that the so-called 'new car smell' is mostly from industrial adhesives. Oh yeah...I worked at a Honda assembly plant in Marysville for 8 years so I have some first hand exp.
gunsmoke on 30/4/2009 at 01:52
Quote Posted by Kolya
Now I know that car manufacturers have been doing this for a long time.
You 'know' this? I know for a fact that the so-called 'new car smell' is mostly from industrial adhesives. Oh yeah...I worked at a Honda assembly plant in Marysville for 5 years so I have some first hand exp.
gunsmoke on 30/4/2009 at 02:00
Quote Posted by Koki
The rulebook for Cyberpunk 2020 has cell phones, but they're super hi-tech and expensive.
From the Wikipedia article:
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This role-playing game is based on the works of William Gibson, Bruce Sterling, and other authors of the "mirrorshades group". The game includes a number of elements now associated with the 1980s, such as the idea of "style over substance" and glam rock. The fictional timeline, trying to depict an early 21st century from a 1980s perspective contains some anachronisms such as
not foreseeing the adoption of cell phones as the preferred mode of communication.
Koki on 30/4/2009 at 18:35
Wow, I was right!
The Alchemist on 30/4/2009 at 19:48
I don't know how much of this thread is still actually about the iPhone but here's something I posted on Facebook:
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As some of you may know, I work for a VOIP provider, a telephony system that works via the Internet. It is a technology that is rapidly replacing the hard-lines that Bellsouth offers. As cellphones become more robust and feature faster data connections, their place in this arena is becoming more apparent.
This occurred to me when I read up on how to make an iPod Touch dial a number. The iTunes App Store has several variations of SIP software for the iPod Touch (and iPhone) which allow you to make calls via the iPod's wifi connection using a dialpad that looks just like the iPhone's dialpad, it just runs through a SIP service instead. This idea had me really excited; I was about to run out the door and buy myself an iPod Touch and install the SIP software, as since I work for a VOIP company I can give myself a phone number to send and receive calls from for free. The caveat to this is that the iPod Touch only does wifi, I would be limited to connectivity based on location. As much fun as it would be to make people turn heads when I make a phone call from an iPod Touch (which wouldn't be that significant either, since they look identical), I'd rather invest in a more complete solution. I have looked up and down for a satellite wifi connection for the iPod Touch. This would be my trump card. If I had any mechanism of providing satellite wifi to an iPod Touch, I would be in like Flinn. There are, of course, plug in cards for laptops that access satellite wifi networks and also 3G wireless (redundant but that's what they're called) routers but neither of those solutions make sense unless I plan on having said device in my car and hoping I can make a phone call so-long as I'm within signal distance of my car. That's pushing the nerd spectrum a little too far.
The other alternative is having another phone that has 3G access, and using software that shares the 3G speed via Wifi. Some people do this just so they can have wifi access on their iPod Touch everywhere they go, but obviously not for the purposes of making phone calls from it, because you're already carrying another phone anyway so, what the fuck. Thus, until the advent of a pocket sized battery powered 3G repeater or the availability of satellite wifi on an iPod Touch, this is not a plausible solution. The upsetting part is that some cities have city-wide wifi for a small fee. I'm pretty sure Miami isn't one of them. If that were the case, I'd get the iPod Touch, get the city-wide wifi, and I'd have exactly what I wanted. An iPod Touch that can make phone calls at no charge (since I provide myself with the SIP service), from any location in the city (thanks to the city-wide wifi).
So for now, the iPod Phone is a pipe dream, unless I want to only make phone calls from places that have wifi hot-spots. Despite the plausibility of this being a viable solution in most cases, it won't work from a car, so I'm hoping to find a better solution.
So, I return to the iPhone. It has 3G, right? Yeah, well, AT&T is suddenly made very aware of the presence of SIP services on the App store, and have detracted previous claims that they would offer a Data-only plan. I tried calling AT&T and getting a Data-only plan for an iPhone but they told me I -have- to have a voice plan. This includes consumer level Blackberrys as well: -must- get voice with your data, probably because Blackberrys also have SIP apps available to them. I got lucky though, I called the business level sales department and asked them if they would supply me with data-only sim chips for my companies existing Blackberrys and the guy agreed. It's a little expensive though, 40 bucks a month, but hell, if I'm getting free SIP service and along with that it suddenly becomes very cheap. So sure, I could sign up for this and do SIP via a Blackberry, but what about my iPhone fetish, damn it?
Well, here's the other nice detail. Unlocked iPhones will take sim cards from other providers, if they're compatible. They're not always. Hence why I called AT&T themselves for the data-only chip for my supposed "Blackberry." I figure I can get a data-only plan for an "existing Blackberry" and just stick it in an unlocked iPhone. It should work fine, as it's the same provider, probably same chip, and I was assured that if the device the sim card is put into supports 3G, that it'll run at 3G speeds. Do they really think business customers are less savvy than regular consumers? They probably just assume business customers can afford to shell out the ridiculous amount for their full voice and data plan.
So that's the plan, data-only "Blackberry" level 3G sim card from AT&T, plugged into an unlocked iPhone, using a SIP app to connected to my VOIP service, paying $40, getting unlimited data and unlimited voice (as well as wholesale prices -- ie: what my company pays -- for international calls).
Now, in retrospect, the cheapest AT&T plan for a 3G iPhone is 30 for data and 40 for their cheapest minutes package. I could just get this, pay $70 a month, and just use my SIP stuff to avoid using the minutes they give me. Also, in the event that I'm in an area that doesn't have enough bandwidth for SIP to work, i could always use the minutes, since they'lll rollover each month. Still a lot more expensive than not having to pay for voice I wont need.
Matthew on 4/5/2009 at 12:23
That all sounds very complex, but it sounds plausible.
Renzatic on 19/5/2009 at 02:09
This is sort of on topic, well kinda but not really. Okay, it is. Maybe.
The following post is a review of my newly acquired Blackberry Storm. The ups, the downs, and everything in between. Since this is an iPhone thread, I figured this to be the best place to post.
First off, let me get the fact I hate cell phones out of the way. I hate them because people yack on them while driving their stupid cars and thus can't drive their stupid cars because they're too focused on their stupid conversation on their stupid cell phones. I hate them because people absolutely DEMAND I return their calls within 15 seconds of them leaving a message or they get butt hell fuck shit pissy and leave 20 messages every minute on the dot telling me they're angry I'm not returning their call. I hate them because of the one guy that I usually don't like much to begin with but he's a friend of a friend and they SWUR he's cool always ends up spending two hours on the phone while the rest of us are socializing and has the fucking brass brazen balls to tell us to keep it quiet because he's talking on the cell. And don't even get me started on texting, and the people who think it's wise to pop their phones at the 12 o'clock position on the steering wheel and giggle like a loon while barreling down the interstate at 90MPH. That topic forces me down dark roads into the nethers of my soul, where hairy evil things dwell...roughly to the west of where my libido lives.
Anyway, I bought a cellphone. Traded in my luddite badge of honor for a bit of pansy ass piece of mind. Truth is, I need one, and I'm tired of harassing poor gas station employees to let me call someone (I swear it ain't long distance). And of course, because I'm like a retarded raccoon when it comes shiny cool things, and had a damn ton of money to blow, I wanted to go for broke and get something snazzy like an iPhone. After all, if I gotta trade in my badge, I might as well get something nice in return.
So, long story short, after looking through all the available phones, I ended up with the Blackberry. I liked the clicky screen, gives good tactile feedback, something sorely missing from the iPhone. Coincidentally, this same feature was considered a downside by the hipster geek-chic salesman with the too thin glasses I ended up getting stuck with. "It's too loud", he said, "I don't want people to hearing me text while I'm sitting through my classes". Huh. I guess he'll be passing school by the good graces of handjobs and butterfly kisses. See what cell phones reduce people to? Oh well, ain't my life. And anyway, he'll probably get me a free leather case for the phone I only want out of pure necessity. He's my best friend ever.
Wait..what was I talking about? Oh yeah, the phone. It's good. Not quite an iPhone killer, but it has nice features to go along with the clicky screen. Though in the end, I'm thinking it might be too much for me, considering what I'll mostly be using it for. Eh...it has MP3 and video playback, and I can check out the new posts here while I'm out in a chicken barn somewhere. We're good.
In closing, my new cell phone has made me a cynical bastard. I see the world in dark shades of grey, and I hate everyone I come across. Weirdly, I've got this urge to post here alot more. Go fig. :D
Acolyte6 on 19/5/2009 at 23:52
Quote Posted by Renzatic
This is sort of on topic, well kinda but not really. Okay, it is. Maybe.
I hate them because people yack on them while driving their stupid cars and thus can't drive their stupid cars because they're too focused on their stupid conversation on their stupid cell phones.
That is just Funny :laff::laff::laff:
You know, that's what text messaging is for right? I'll txt back when I feel like it... :rolleyes: My phone is almost always in silent mode :cheeky:
Thief13x on 20/5/2009 at 03:30
haha, yeah let's type out a text message with digits while driving down the interstate. BRB while I increase my insurance coverage