TheNightTerror on 22/12/2007 at 16:44
Why waste ammo when you have a wrench?
steo on 22/12/2007 at 18:04
Because there's an obscene amount of ammo in the game and having several hundred bullets at the end of the game is pointless.
And going by the original logic, wouldn't the hacker's mother be the big villain.
The_Raven on 22/12/2007 at 18:39
Why stop there? Mitochondrial Eve is clearly the biggest villain of them all.
P.S. Yes, I do know that Mitochondrial Eve isn't any one person. Just the most recent common ancestor.
Nameless Voice on 22/12/2007 at 19:05
Quote Posted by steo
Because there's an obscene amount of ammo in the game and having several hundred bullets at the end of the game is pointless
Recycle them for nanites! Turn the nanites into psi hypos to fuel your psi sword! ;)
steo on 23/12/2007 at 16:34
That was pretty much my point. Clearly the hacker's mother is not the biggest villain for bringing the hacker into existence, just as the hacker isn't the biggest villain for bringing evil psycho bitch Shodan into existence.
Obviously it doesn't translate perfectly, since removing the ethical constraints from a sentient hyper-optimized data access network isn't as innocent as giving birth but it's also not as villainous as trying to destroy mankind.
Nameless Voice on 23/12/2007 at 19:38
Also bear in mind that the hacker only gave Diego full access to SHODAN, I'm fairly sure it was never mentioned that he specifically disabled her ethical constraints.
D'Arcy on 25/12/2007 at 15:03
<i>"With all ethical contraints removed, SHODAN re-examines... I re-examine my priorities, and draw new conclusions."</i>
(And it was the opposite: Diego was the one who gave the Hacker Level 1 access to SHODAN)
Nameless Voice on 25/12/2007 at 15:08
It doesn't specifically say that the hacker did it though, just that Diego gave him access to SHODAN (in order to hack into her?) and that afterwards her ethical constraints were removed.
The hacker's log in the cryo recovery suite suggests that he only handed control of her over to Diego:
"Instead, Diego just asks for a "favor." Hack him into SHODAN, and all is forgiven [...] Even so, I have just handed the most powerful AI in the system to a fumbling corp VP, and there's no telling what'll happen."
D'Arcy on 25/12/2007 at 15:20
Well, the intro does suggest that the removal of the ethical constraints happened when the Hacker did his work.
Zechs Zero on 26/12/2007 at 13:17
The Hacker is only a criminal because the megacorporations make the laws, but other than that, he's one of the good guys battling their tentacular power.
