xStevieNx on 18/1/2018 at 18:20
I don't know if I would say income inequality makes a country a shithole. America was built on equality of opportunity not equality of outcome. And as for the gun deaths, well America is the largest first world country that allows you to have a gun so naturally it would have the most gun deaths.
Craeftig on 18/1/2018 at 18:26
According to Alex Jones, America was built on guns and whisky.
N'Al on 18/1/2018 at 18:31
Quote Posted by xStevieNx
I don't know if I would say income inequality makes a country a shithole. America was built on equality of opportunity not equality of outcome.
That may be true, but (
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/06/why-income-inequality-is-bad-for-growth/) excessive inequality is actually bad for the economy, so the US could be doing even better.
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And as for the guns deaths, well America is one of the only first world countries that allow you to have a gun so naturally America would have the most gun deaths.
So what.
xStevieNx on 18/1/2018 at 18:55
Saying the U.S. has the highest rate of gun deaths is like saying, for example, the only country that allows cars has the highest rate of car accidents. Of course they would because they're the only country that allows cars, it's a side effect of having them. ~13,000 people die a year from firearm related deaths. 1.3 MILLION people die a year in car accidents, but almost everyone drives a car daily, because it is their right to drive a car just as it is to own a gun.
Sulphur on 18/1/2018 at 19:00
If you were to continue with that logic, that's like saying people dying from stab wounds is a side effect of allowing knives to be sold to people. I haven't tried chopping my veggies with a gun lately, but if that's how it works in the US, I guess it explains the number of gun-related deaths.
N'Al on 18/1/2018 at 19:00
So what.
Renzatic on 18/1/2018 at 19:02
America isn't the only 1st world country that allows its citizens to have guns. Finland, Austria, Iceland, Germany, France, I believe they average roughly one gun per every three people. Hardly rare.
xStevieNx on 18/1/2018 at 19:14
Quote Posted by Sulphur
If you were to continue with that logic, that's like saying people dying from stab wounds is a side effect of allowing knives to be sold to people. I haven't tried chopping my veggies with a gun lately, but if that's how it works in the US, I guess it explains the number of gun-related deaths.
But people dying from stab wounds IS a side effect of allowing knives to be sold to people. If knives were banned there wouldn't be hardly any people dying from stab wounds. But knives, just like guns, when they are used right have a practical and useful purpose.
xStevieNx on 18/1/2018 at 19:20
Quote Posted by Renzatic
America isn't the only 1st world country that allows its citizens to have guns. Finland, Austria, Iceland, Germany, France, I believe they average roughly one gun per every three people. Hardly rare.
(
http://www.newsweek.com/us-gun-control-compare-rest-world-627184) Yes, but they are lot more strict.
N'Al on 18/1/2018 at 19:20
That may all be true, yet the US still has the highest rate of gun deaths per capita in the developed world. So again: so what.