Aerothorn on 13/1/2007 at 17:47
Quote Posted by Martlet
What i want to know is why do atheists always want to talk about God?
I'm an athiest (a lot of the time - depends on my mood) and I rarely bring up god, and if I do it's not in any sort of "let's have a debate!" context. And there's a reason for that - when there's a debate, many seemingly intelligent people (on both sides of the fence) come out and make complete retards of themselves, and I'd rather just not see it.
Less label-slapping, please.
Thirith on 13/1/2007 at 17:47
*subscribes to this thread for fett's posts*
Martlet on 13/1/2007 at 17:52
Quote Posted by Aerothorn
I'm an athiest (a lot of the time - depends on my mood) and I rarely bring up god, and if I do it's not in any sort of "let's have a debate!" context. And there's a reason for that - when there's a debate, many seemingly intelligent people (on both sides of the fence) come out and make complete retards of themselves, and I'd rather just not see it.
Less label-slapping, please.
yeah sorry, I was just illustrating the point that why should Dawkins care about God?
Martlet on 13/1/2007 at 17:56
It also always seem ridiculous that evolution is brought into these debates; God is not at the top of a pyramid of evoulution, he is separate and alone outside of what he has created; God does not exist, he is eternal. Evolution can easily be explained as it being the will of a creator God.
Vigil on 13/1/2007 at 17:59
Quote Posted by fett
I won't go into it here since everyone is sick of my lecturing on this subject...
I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe we aren't as sick of your lecturing as we are of people cherrypicking points of contention and saying "aHA".
Gingerbread Man on 13/1/2007 at 17:59
Quote Posted by Martlet
Evolution can easily be explained as it being the will of a creator God.
Twinkies can also be explained as the result of a creator God, but I assure you they were invented in 1930 by an American called James Dewar.
SD on 13/1/2007 at 18:00
Quote Posted by Martlet
Evolution can easily be explained as it being the will of a creator God.
But evolution can more easily and rationally be explained in the absence of God.
So far as why should Dawkins care about God - he's an educator, so it's in his interests to see people abandon superstition and adopt reason, logic and rational thinking instead.
Martlet on 13/1/2007 at 18:02
Quote Posted by Gingerbread Man
Twinkies can also be explained as the result of a creator God, but I assure you they were invented in 1930 by an American called James Dewar.
yeah i know, but evolution does not exclude god, which is what is often proposed, and the theory of evolution is slightly flawed; why do many animals display altruism?
Gingerbread Man on 13/1/2007 at 18:05
They don't. They display socially-adaptive, though still entirely self-serving, behaviour. Same as we do.
Christ, this is going to turn into a second-year lecture on evolutionary psych, isn't it? Well, it won't be me who does it this time.
Martlet on 13/1/2007 at 18:06
have animals never sacrificed themselves for their children or found food for their offspring?
socially adaptive is altruistic
