Tony_Tarantula on 30/12/2019 at 16:37
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What you gonna do -- some people spend the Christmas time getting pleasantly tipsy from glühwein -hic- and watching old TV shows, others prefer to post years old Turner Diaries fan-fiction.
So you're going to lecture me, someone who has actually been on the "front lines" of an asymmetric conflict, that this is just fan fiction?Go ahead. Keep clinging to your fool's fantasy that everything's just going to be fine because the military is going to go in and mop up those right wingers inside the space of a week (just like how the US won Iraq in a month and Afghanistan was over in a few weeks).
Renzatic on 30/12/2019 at 17:27
This is getting stupid.
Rather, I should say it's getting considerably stupider. It's been stupid for awhile now.
Yakoob on 30/12/2019 at 18:38
Would you say this has been a decline of the debate?
Renzatic on 30/12/2019 at 19:08
More like it's long since declined, and we've been wallowing about on the bottom ever since.
Starker on 30/12/2019 at 21:47
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
So you're going to lecture me, someone who has actually been on the "front lines" of an asymmetric conflict, that this is just fan fiction?Go ahead. Keep clinging to your fool's fantasy that everything's just going to be fine because the military is going to go in and mop up those right wingers inside the space of a week (just like how the US won Iraq in a month and Afghanistan was over in a few weeks).
OK, boomer.
Tocky on 31/12/2019 at 00:27
I really don't think Tony understands how unhinged he has become. I understand most right wingers are prone to swallow conspiracy and some constantly look for rage inducing articles which support their preconceptions but it's gotten out of hand. I'm worried for him. If all right wingers were that close to the edge then I suppose groups could band together attempting a self fulfilling prophecy and start murdering people. Right wing media and nutso websites could have them come out to murder ANTIFA who stand up to the klan rallies and instead of Charlotte there could be larger murders of opposition to klan. I don't see any way for that to translate to full scale war unless the klan starts murdering the police who will have to by law arrest them. They claim to be for police so they would have to go against their own stated principles but they have done that before. If they picked a city with a large African American police force I suppose they could justify it to their faithful.
Maybe with Trump working up more hatred every day and right wing media stoking the fires of hate they could get a Hitler style takeover started. What's that new right wingnut news Youtube keeps peddling? Epoch Times? If that lunacy could get a lot of eyes and crank up the loon slowly enough not to lose too many. I just can't see it going far in this age of actual information. Maybe the Jews couldn't see it either before Crystal Nacht.
NAH. I gotta believe even most right wingers are not that batshit crazy.
Starker on 31/12/2019 at 01:58
But, but... an anonymous copypaste post on r/concpiracy said so. The moment they get an election result they don't like, right-wingers are going to start murdering leftists and there's nothing anyone can do about it, because they are so well-trained and organised. Just look at any previous events where the right has gathered to unite. And blue states like California don't have farms, so they are all going to starve to death even before the right-wing murder squads get to them. Also, Russia will definitely help the insurgents, but NATO and the EU won't help leftists, because it would look bad.
Tony_Tarantula on 3/1/2020 at 15:49
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Tocky
I really don't think Tony understands how unhinged he has become. I understand most right wingers are prone to swallow conspiracy and some constantly look for rage inducing articles which support their preconceptions but it's gotten out of hand. I'm worried for him. If all right wingers were that close to the edge then I suppose groups could band together attempting a self fulfilling prophecy and start murdering people. Right wing media and nutso websites could have them come out to murder ANTIFA who stand up to the klan rallies and instead of Charlotte there could be larger murders of opposition to klan. I don't see any way for that to translate to full scale war unless the klan starts murdering the police who will have to by law arrest them. They claim to be for police so they would have to go against their own stated principles but they have done that before. If they picked a city with a large African American police force I suppose they could justify it to their faithful.
I'm exactly as unhinged as The Atlantic Magazine: (
https://www.theatlantic.com/press-releases/archive/2019/11/atlantics-december-2019-issue/601795/)
I'm also not the one saying people should be beaten up "Cuz they're bad!".
Have you actually been following what's been going in Virginia?
Of course not.
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https://www.npr.org/local/305/2019/12/26/791563510/another-virginia-county-says-it-won-t-abide-by-new-gun-laws-can-it-do-that)
Virginia is literally preparing to send in the military to round up law officials who refuse to enforce gun bans
That is actually happening.I'm NOT talking about the bizarre scenarios you're projecting in your head. I'm much more worried about some kind of mass civil unrest and the most likely flashpoint would be gun confiscations because that plays directly into right-wing "from my cold dead hands" fantasies.
It's also something that the American left is guaranteed to do. As soon as Trump is gone they're immediately going to go into "punish" mode and try to inflict pain on the people they view as being responsible for Trump. One of the first things they'll do is pass sweeping, aggressive gun bans with felony penalties attached.
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But, but... an anonymous copypaste post on r/concpiracy said so. The moment they get an election result they don't like, right-wingers are going to start murdering leftists and there's nothing anyone can do about it, because they are so well-trained and organised.
That's what the left does. There were....all of ZERO acts of rioting and violence because of the impeachment.
The right also isn't well-trained and organized. However, because military, police, and veterans are predominantly right wing they have the capacity to get that way very quickly.
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Just look at any previous events where the right has gathered to unite. And blue states like California don't have farms, so they are all going to starve to death even before the right-wing murder squads get to them. Also, Russia will definitely help the insurgents, but NATO and the EU won't help leftists, because it would look bad.
NATO and the EU might help leftists. That said I've worked with those NATO and EU militaries and most of what they did in Afghanistan was sit on their asses inside larger, safe bases. If you look at battlefield reports between them and Russia there's little doubt which force is more effective. What's far, far, more probable is China coming in to support the American establishment given the strong economic incentive China would have to maintaining status quo.
Tocky on 4/1/2020 at 02:59
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
I'm also not the one saying people should be beaten up "Cuz they're bad!".
I also am not Vae. Weird.
Also you don't read the articles you link.
Also law enforcement that does not follow the law should be fired for not doing their jobs.
Also the rest was batshit.
Dude you need to get a Russian paycheck for pushing this stuff. They pay for just this sort of stuff. No shit.