Nameless Voice on 17/9/2018 at 23:58
I'd like to think that these kinds of thinking aren't a big threat numbers-wise, but then I see neo-Nazi parties in Germany and Sweden reaching 17-20% of the votes in elections, which makes me wonder how many of them there really are.
Pyrian on 18/9/2018 at 01:44
You're placing a lot of faith in this hypothetical invisibility. There's a whole well-funded right-wing media apparatus. The quality of the stuff that the they dredge up to tar the left wing strongly suggests to me that it's scraping the barrel to find anything even remotely equivalent to, say, President Trump. Which may be beating a dead horse BUT HE'S PRESIDENT which by definition makes him MAINSTREAM. The problem with the discourse isn't the extremists at all, left or right. It's the fairly "mainstream" right. Not all of the right, maybe not even most - but enough to nominate and elect a president, which ain't exactly nothin'.
Also, while civility is kind of the main point in this thread, I think B.S. deserves a mention. There's a lot of B.S. on the left. But there's a lot more on the right, and once again the president himself is deeply invested in the nonsense. The value of civil discourse drops when one side is just B.S.'ing, and even more when both are.
Tocky on 18/9/2018 at 01:58
Yeah, unless Iceman doesn't get Fox or any of the many republitalk radio shows, then I don't quite get the "don't hear about them". Hell, even Christian radio is nothing but a diatribe against anything left. They have perverted religion and forsaken the message of Christ for one of hate toward charity for the poor or forgiveness except the perpetual kind for their dear leader in the white house. Plenty of hate on those programs that seek every possible way to take a stab at the left.
Nameless Voice on 18/9/2018 at 10:00
I'm curious as to where extremist-left political parties are gaining power, because I haven't heard of any.
Now, we do have some dodgy left parties here in Ireland.
There's Sinn Fein, though the problem with them is that they were originally the political arm of the IRA, and are extreme nationalists, rather than that they're too extremely left.
And then there's the Anti-Austerity Alliance, who mostly seem to be made up of people who don't want to pay for using excessive amounts of water, and have harassed our president (who comes from the left) for not being left enough. They probably count as extremist left, but they're tiny.
Purgator on 18/9/2018 at 20:59
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SubJeff on 18/9/2018 at 21:03
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
I'm curious as to where extremist-left political parties are gaining power, because I haven't heard of any.
UK Labour party? Heard of them??
Nameless Voice on 18/9/2018 at 21:18
The British Labour party are actually left now, after decades of Blairites selling out the party's principles and turning it into a centre-right party.
They actually want to invest in social infrastructure and take some control of public services back from private businesses.
How is that extremist left?
They're not proposing the guillotining CEOs or reclaiming the wealth of the rich.
What is your definition of an extremist left policy?
SubJeff on 18/9/2018 at 22:11
Becoming so extreme lefty handwringing that you've become anti-semitic, that's what.
Nameless Voice on 18/9/2018 at 22:22
Oh, don't even get me started on that media circus.
SubJeff on 19/9/2018 at 17:16
Yeah. When you're so liberal you can't tell which murderers are the bad ones.
