Starker on 1/5/2017 at 17:46
I think that's a part of it, yes, but I'm not a lawyer, as I said before. Could be that Le Corbeau does not have the right to allow GOG use his work and that GOG is doing something illegal. Though it would be strange that GOG's lawyers would allow such a gamble.
I mean, the author allowing its use would logically be the reason why there are no legal ramifications for Squeenix and GOG, no?
Azaran on 1/5/2017 at 18:02
Eidos knows about NewDark (they'd have to be living under a rock otherwise). If they wanted to shut it down, they would have done so years ago
Renault on 1/5/2017 at 18:42
Yeah, I think it's fairly obvious, Le Corbeau doesn't have the right to do anything with Thief - "he" hacked it after all. Thus the anonymity. GOG is either taking their chances or has worked out something with Eidos behind the scenes.
I'm also not a lawyer. I think that's fairly obvious too.
Melan on 1/5/2017 at 18:43
As a rule, companies shut down or sue projects which either impact their bottom line or their control over an IP negatively. NewDark does neither, a hypothetical U4 remake could do both (at least in a company's eye).
Phantom on 1/5/2017 at 20:38
Publishers these days are generally fine with mods that require ownership of the original game, especially if it attracts more users. Not only that, the Dark Engine is antiquated, and the user base is small enough that NewDark probably only slightly affected any bottom line, and if it did it was probably for profit. SE likely wouldn't be bothered enough to trouble with it, though I'm sure they are aware. Again, it allows people to purchase and run their game on modern systems, there's no reason for them to fight that.
Thief in Unreal 4 on the other hand, is different. Even though they haven't made a peep about a Thief 5, if it is in development it's probably on UE4. They are much likelier to send a cease and desist over something that potentially affects a future project, versus something that released 17 years ago.
Starker on 2/5/2017 at 00:55
Also, it's harder to go after something that has already been released than something that has only been announced. A C&D letter would be pretty much useless for stopping NewDark, for example. And running a Kickstarter would definitely draw attention.
Not that I wouldn't like to see a Thief remake, but I think a Thief-inspired game has much better chances of survival.
vorob on 2/5/2017 at 06:02
Quote Posted by dawnstream
Hey,
I want to share with you the work that I've been working on for a while :rolleyes:
The Dark Project UE4 - Compare Preview (vimeo.com/214403794)
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vimeo.com/214403794) The Dark Project UE4 - Compare Preview
The Dark Project UE4 - Gameplay Test Preview (vimeo.com/203288393)
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vimeo.com/203288393) The Dark Project UE4 - Gameplay Test Preview
Although I respect the work of others, I can not praise this particular work. The original was colorful, varied. Even in the absence of details, this was compensated by textures (where these details were drawn) and lighting. On the conversion of UE4, it simply became a generic warehouses where instead of texture details the shelves were added.
And everything is in the same color scheme, as in the early days of xbox 360 games. On the street it's even worse, it's just the original where modern textures were pulled.
In general, I like the work of artists who recreate scenes from old games on a new engine. Excellent work was on Deus Ex, Bioshock. But Thief is always in bad shape...
SplitterTrace on 17/5/2017 at 07:34
Looks great.
Why not just make your own stealth game using similar (or the same) mechanics? You won't have to worry about legal issues and you can feel more proud of it being something you made ;)
dawnstream on 12/7/2017 at 17:11
Hello again,
It's been a while last time I answer you all sorry. I cancelled this project because of legal issues as you know and I was working on my own project. It is not stealth based, I don't have much skill for that mechanics yet, my new project like penumbra / amnesia but this is just for start to do somethings. When I get more experience about making games I'll go back to the start for thief-inspired stealth based game. You can check this out my new game if you wish. Thank you all for your encouragements:)
The House Project - Alpha Gameplay (
vimeo.com/224258553)
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https://vimeo.com/224258553)
Gecko on 2/9/2017 at 13:12
I still don't understand why they don't execpt a fan Remake of Thief 1! :mad:
Look at this new fan project here!
A fan remake of Tomb Raider 2 with the Unreal Engine:
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https://www.facebook.com/TombRaiderDox/) https://www.facebook.com/TombRaiderDox/
And it's no problem here -> without the original game files of TR2!!! Why?!