Ros96 on 1/5/2017 at 01:52
WOW you caused me to come out of lurking for many years, this is amazing!!!:thumb:
voodoo47 on 1/5/2017 at 07:41
Quote Posted by Starker
I'm not a lawyer, but I doubt requiring the assets would make it fair use and okay legally.
when in doubt, google it - and you will find out that there are many, many comprehensive mods, fan updates, overhauls for games that replace up to 90% of the original files (textures, music, objects, levels, even executables and dlls) out there, and they haven't been C&D'd. they have one thing in common - they do nothing unless you already own the original game.
Judith on 1/5/2017 at 07:55
Googling doesn't replace knowledge of the law, or reading EULAs for that matter. And every license agreement in the world states that you can't disassemble, reverse-engineer, copy, distribute, create derivative works, etc. without permission. Even a translation constitutes derivative work, not to mention messing with game files. Just because corporations don't take action right now, it doesn't mean that you're not infringing their copyright laws. It's stupid to invest so much time and effort in your work, knowing it can be taken down any minute. And really, that kind of attitude, where you think everyone is much dumber than you, and they probably won't notice - someday you may be surprised how small that group of people is.
Also, this discussion is kind of irrelevant now, as Dawnstream already made his mind. I hope he makes a great game; so far we can be sure it will have a great art style :)
bassoferrol on 1/5/2017 at 13:48
I´m going to get rid of NewDark right now.
No more DDS, PNG textures or even subtitles for us to enjoy.
Sigh!
Starker on 1/5/2017 at 14:58
It's so legal a raven has to drop new builds in the middle of the night.
gamophyte on 1/5/2017 at 15:16
I don't know what is not being understood. The owners are people, people who purchased it to make profit, UE4 is new enough to compete with their own releases. They are not bots that can be exploited with a loophole. It's not about selling the old game for the purchasers of the IP, it's about selling something to main audiences for profit. Trust me, this is a badass thing I wish could come out, but DarkMod route is best.
Renault on 1/5/2017 at 16:30
I'm not sure either party would really care. It's an anonymous patch that makes the game run better, thus leading to more sales. Who would even sue who? There are no losers in this deal. But voodoo47 probably knows more.
Renault on 1/5/2017 at 17:05
Eidos/SE can sue whoever they want, whenever they want. It's not like murder has been committed and the police are going to come knocking on your door.
Starker on 1/5/2017 at 17:11
GOG can use NewDark because the author in its readme actually allows its use, IIRC.
Renault on 1/5/2017 at 17:31
Think about that for a second. You're saying Le Corbeau has the right to tell GOG they can legally use a hacked Thief.exe?
Quote:
Permission is granted to any party that has obtained the legal rights to sell the original (v1.18 or
earlier) game, such as GOG and Steam, to include this update,
as long as they also have been granted
permission by Eidos/Square Enix to do so.