ZylonBane on 24/4/2017 at 04:01
Well, the first area of A Keeper's Training is now impossible to sneak through. So there's that.
Renault on 24/4/2017 at 04:49
Kickstarter? So you plan to make this a commercial product. Well good luck, Eidos owns the IP, and they're not exactly Cyan. You likely won't get far. Even as a strictly free, fan project, they'll probably still shut you down.
Cardia on 24/4/2017 at 07:09
Impressive work Dawstream, i hope get the chance to play it.
Melan on 24/4/2017 at 07:22
Nice looking video, but beyond portfolio-building, it has no chance of actually seeing the day in the way you envisioned. The legal reasons have already been raised, but there is also the issue of building a full-scale stealth game of your own. This has been done with The Dark Mod, and it took roughly five years of work by a large and dedicated team to make it function, then a few more to make it smooth and satisfying. It is not simply a matter of making a functional lightgem and a simple object interaction system. The real work comes afterwards.
goldwell on 24/4/2017 at 07:41
That looks fantastic Dawnstream, if you really do intend to recreate the game are you going to release it level by level?
I'd love to play through even the first level of Thief in a modern engine.
Phantom on 24/4/2017 at 15:46
Dawnstream, your work is wonderful and you are quite talented. I think everyone here would love to play a pound for pound remake of The Dark Project in a modern engine, but I agree with everyone that the licensing issues will keep you from doing a kickstarter or generating income from it. That being said I hope you continue and do as much work to it as possible, I always look forward to anything new that is Thief related! Kudos and good work!
dawnstream on 24/4/2017 at 17:10
Thank you all for your comments.
I want to correct something misunderstood. I'm not planning generating income from this project. This Remake Project will be completely free like The Dark Mod.
My kickstarter plan's purpose is just teaming up, buying stuff, etc... to complete game. I already spent about 500$ to game assets just for what you did watched. My question to Square-Enix will be just "Can I get donated and remake this game to share it free-to-play", I'm not planing to sell it.
Like I sad, whatever happens I'll continuee somehow
Yandros on 24/4/2017 at 17:26
They won't care that you're not making money from it, it's their intellectual property and they'll probably shut you down regardless. It sucks I know, but that's by far the likeliest scenario.
dawnstream on 24/4/2017 at 17:35
Quote Posted by Yandros
They won't care that you're not making money from it, it's their intellectual property and they'll probably shut you down regardless. It sucks I know, but that's by far the likeliest scenario.
If you right, I need to volunteer people as designers & developers then. It will be more than 10 years to complete the game with only myself
Renault on 24/4/2017 at 18:29
I'm not sure why that would even matter. Whether it's just you or 100 volunteers, it's still Eidos' IP. What you're doing - recreating the game in a modern engine - may be something that
they want to do at some point, and charge people for it. Just like the (
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock) System Shock remake. So they're not going to allow someone to just give it away for free.
If this was some smaller development house, you might be able to work something out. But this is Eidos/Square Enix, a very large corporation. They might not notice your project at first, but eventually they will.
Not trying to be a killjoy, but these are the facts.
Edit: I guess I'll add this too - if you
really want to do it, collect your volunteers and then work on the thing privately. Then release it anonymously when you're done. Short of that though, you'll probably get a Cease & Desist letter fairly quick.
