Renzatic on 20/7/2008 at 23:10
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After seeing on IMAX last night I can only conclude the same.
My only regret was not seeing it in IMAX. But that didn't do much to deter the awesome enjoyment of an awesome flick.
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y'think 2 Face -is- dead? ...I humbly thought he was almost up to par with Joker. Wouldn't mind the sequel to include him as the main baddie.Edit: My opinion mirrors that of Dethtoll's. I'm not one that read alot of comics as a kid, and I've never been that big on the whole Superman/Spiderman/X-Men thing. I like the movies, sometimes even love them. But when I'm watching a superhero flick, I always like it simply as a superhero flick. Something I watch when I don't want to think, just want to be entertained (which happens more often than not). TDK really did go above and beyond and transcend that little genre. It's a great movie through and through.
june gloom on 20/7/2008 at 23:32
It's been pointed out to me that this movie has been something of a religious experience for me.
I'm not about to argue.
Shakey-Lo on 21/7/2008 at 00:13
wtf? I thought it was good, but I really honestly don't see what could be so "oh my fucking god" about it. I'd rate it about equal to the first film, which is a solid 8/10. As an action movie I think TDK is probably much better, and yes, the Joker is fantastic, but Begins was much more focused on the character of Batman which I loved. Like I said, I think both films are very good (and I love to see a genuinely good film break box office records) but I truthfully do not understand why everybody is masturbating furiously over the new one.
Sypha Nadon on 21/7/2008 at 02:54
Renzatic, there's always the Mad Hatter... and Ventriloquist/Scarface! Yeah, I know, they're both kind of silly looking, but they both have a certain pathos... the Mad Hatter's first episode in the Animated Series was a real heartbreaker IIRC.
Maybe for the third film Nolan could do an adaptation of Grant Morrison's whole "Black Glove" storyline. THAT would be cool.
This was the first time I've ever gone to a midnight showing of a movie. Place was packed, and quite a few people were decked out in costumes (I even saw someone sporting a pretty realistic-looking Scarecrow costume). Our seats sucked (towards the front and off to the side) but after a few minutes into the film I barely even noticed the pain in my neck anymore. The film's great, and while it's not the second coming as some have maken it out to be, it's still one of the best movies I've seen in theaters in awhile. Bale, Caine, Freeman and Oldman were great as always, and Heath Ledger was perfect as the Joker. One thing I liked a lot was the film had no flashbacks to the first movie, didn't bother re-explaining how Batman came to be who he was... it just assumed you already knew. Also, I liked how it didn't try to explain the Joker either... he just is...
Volitions Advocate on 21/7/2008 at 04:09
As I was watching the scene in the interrogation room I thought the same thing about Heat actually which has probably just been bumped off my #1 spot to #2 with this movie. I just came back from seeing it.
I think this is as close to a perfect movie as I have ever seen.
The only reason I"ll knock 3 % off a perfect score woudl be because of the how badly they screwed cilian murphy on this one. Such a cameo is shameful. If they had even given him 1 good line like the dozens ledger had it woudl've been great. He's every bit as talented as the rest of this cast and I think they did him a huge injustice.
Naysayers say what you want.
june gloom on 21/7/2008 at 05:26
Was anyone else taken aback by the pencil trick?
(Not telling you what it is, if you haven't seen it... you'll see why.)
Tonamel on 21/7/2008 at 05:45
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Who's left after The Scarecrow, The Joker, and Two-Face? The Riddler? Mr. Freeze? Bah. They don't compare.
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Renzatic, there's always the Mad Hatter... and Ventriloquist/Scarface! Yeah, I know, they're both kind of silly looking, but they both have a certain pathos... the Mad Hatter's first episode in the Animated Series was a real heartbreaker IIRC.
This is something that I've been thinking about since I've seen the movie. Most of the rest of Batman's rogues' gallery are pretty cartoonish, and wouldn't really seem to fit with Nolan's grittier, more realistic setting.
The Penguin? Killer Croc? Both way too goofy. Poison Ivy was never that interesting to me, but they did a nice job changing up Two Face, so maybe they could make her more interesting. Catwoman was never one for grand schemes, and so couldn't be a main villain. Riddler could be done well, but not right after the Joker (to avoid confusion among non-comic readers). Mr. Freeze is nicely tragic, but he lacks personality, though similar to Poison Ivy, that could change. I'm not sure how you'd play the Mad Hatter in this setting. Fanciful Lewis Caroll stuff doesn't seem to jibe.
So instead, I think in terms of theme. The first movie's theme is Fear, the second movie's theme is Madness. I think a good theme for the third movie would be Change.
Since Batman has willfully turned himself into a villain in the public's eye at the end of The Dark Knight, I think the theme follows logically. Obviously, the A-list villain symbolizing change would be Clayface. He's not as realistic a villain as the ones we've had so far, but he was always such a tragic character, it might be made to work. I think the greater issue is one of Too Much CG in a movie series that hasn't really overtly used any. B-plot villain could be the Man-Bat, but I'm not sure that would be necessary.
Of course, they could always go for a reimagining of one of the more obscure villains. I'd love to see a more fleshed-out and disturbed Clock King. He was always one of my favorites from the Animated Series.
[edit] dethtoll: I think everybody in the theater winced at that one. Totally brilliant way to introduce his, uh, "eccentricities" as quickly as possible.
june gloom on 21/7/2008 at 06:17
I think I'd like to see something along the lines of Long Halloween/Dark Victory (I mean, moreso than TDK was.)
Arguably Catwoman, done right, would make a good love interest and majour supporting character, especially since she uses methods similar to Batman but for a very different purpouse.
As for a majour villian... if we're going to drag up B-list villians, Mr. Zsasz might make for an interesting serial killer bent, considering how fucked up he is. (He carves new scars into his body for every victim.)
frozenman on 21/7/2008 at 15:22
Joker has one of the awesomest silken-hexagon-patterned shirt I've ever seen - If anyone can think of places they've seen a beautiful wonderful shirt such as that, please, help a friend in need.
Sypha Nadon on 21/7/2008 at 16:34
Volitions, I know what you mean, I'm a big Cillian Murphy fan also and it was kind of sad that eh did so little in this one... actually, I wish he had done more in the first one also!
