Thirith on 2/8/2006 at 08:02
I've read so many people saying that this is stupid casting, as Heath Ledger couldn't compete with Jack Nicholson. Which is totally silly, as far as I'm concerned. Nicholson's Joker was an over-the-top comic book villain. Batman Begins already took a very different tack, and I'd hope for The Dark Knight to do the same thing. I'd rather have a talented filmmaker (and actor - I thought that HL was very impressive in Brokeback Mountain) surprise me than give me exactly what I would have come up with myself...
henke on 2/8/2006 at 08:06
Quote Posted by thefonz
In what way is that line a
rumour? Seems pretty straight forward to me...
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Which is sort of exactly what Fafhrd said 2 posts up from yours. YEAH?
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SD on 2/8/2006 at 09:11
Quote Posted by henke
Which is sort of exactly what Fafhrd said 2 posts up from yours. YEAH?
henke, are you trying to say that thefonz made an entirely unnecessary and extraneous post on TTLG?
I don't believe it and I won't believe it :mad:
Hesche on 2/8/2006 at 09:11
Quote Posted by Scots_Taffer
What? Batman Begins acted as though there were no other Batman movies ever.
As far as I remember they showed a Jokers card right at the end of the first movie. Seemed like an obvious reference to the content of the second movie.
Thirith on 2/8/2006 at 09:26
I think he meant that Batman Begins revises the filmic Batman universe by acting as if all *earlier* films didn't exist. E.g. Bruce Wayne's parents aren't killed by the proto-Joker, the visual design is completely different etc. Of course the film's ending suggests a sequel as well as the direction it might take.
SubJeff on 2/8/2006 at 09:37
BAH EDIT this to Hesche, Thirith in there too too fast.
Have you missed the point of Scots was saying?
He was correcting a, seemingly commonly held, misunderstanding. There is a cohort of movie goers that do not understand that Batman Begins, whilst being about the same vigilanti "super"hero as Tim Burton's Batman and the cruddy films (OMG I saw some of the one with Two-Face and Riddler in it. Tommy, bow your head in shame that is the worst crap I've ever seen you in I bet you cry at night thinking about it you poor sucker) that followed it, is not actually related to them or any of the events that happened in them.
It's an entirely new, and imho far superior, interpretation of it. Just like how Tom Cruise's War of the Worlds is not a sequel or anything to do with the 70s (or was it 60s) version.
Phydeaux on 2/8/2006 at 09:52
I liked the first two "Batmans" (meaning Tim Burton and Danny Elfman), although the second one was merely OK (seems only yesterday I said that Christopher Walken has made many films tolerable rather than crap) and Jack totally made the original. I definitely like the darker, less Adam Westy Batman that Chris Nolan is making. As long as Gary Oldman has a part in the new one, I'll be happy to see it, and I'll trust in the decision for Heath Ledger (for whom I have no real opinion, negative, positive, or otherwise) as The Joker. I personally think Robin Williams, whom I love, would have been too goofy and cliche in this interpretation of Batman.
Hesche on 2/8/2006 at 10:01
Ooops, sorry guys. I should start to read posts more thoroughly...
Aaaanyways, the earlier Batman movies always looked a bit too cartoonish. I like the darker Batman, the obsessed merciless crime fighter who sometimes maybe going a bit too far when he hunts down Gothams thugs.
SD on 2/8/2006 at 10:19
Quote Posted by Hesche
Aaaanyways, the earlier Batman movies always looked a bit too cartoonish.
Well, Batman
is a cartoon character, originally.
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I like the darker Batman, the obsessed merciless crime fighter who sometimes maybe going a bit too far when he hunts down Gothams thugs.
And you don't think Burton's movies were dark? :weird:
SubJeff on 2/8/2006 at 10:34
The first of the old lot certainly was dark. But it wasn't as hard, wasn't as gritty. Bale's Batman would kick Keaton's Batman's ass.
And after number 2 (which was pretty tosh imho, only liking it at all for Souxsie song and Michelle catwoman) they all went super gay and super ghey, loosing any darkness and instead being increasingly infused with homosexual costumes and childish colours and sequences. Turds of films, amongst the worst I've seen and just lazily put together.
This new iteration is wonderfully fresh.
